Note: There should be no discussion in this thread, it is merely a Resource Thread for the LibArc Minecraft Survival Multiplayer Server.
This thread will include a list of Projects being worked on in the server, a long with who is working on them, a list of players on the server, and the collection site for server Renders.
Completed Project Screen Shots can be posted in here also, to show the finalized work to those who do not play Minecraft. Playerlist will be updated as new long-term builders appear on the server.
To gain access to the server, message B4UTRUST or Dark Silver to obtain server IP. This is to keep the potential for Griefer's to enter the server to a minimum.
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Server Population List:
Server Admin:
B4UTRUST
Server Mod:
HotFootGFH
DarekSilver
DanteMachiavelli (aka Charon)
Builders:
Mike1086 (aka AgentFisher)
GoingIncognito
Wolf_Rebel
LibArc Minecraft SMP Server Resource Thread (possibly un56K)
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"Then again, Detective....how often have you dreamed of hearing your father's voice once more? Of feeling your mother's touch?" - Ra's Al Ghul
"According to the Bible, IHVH created the Universe in six days....he obviously didn't know what he was doing." - Darek Steele bani Order of Hermes.
DS's Golden Rule: I am not a bigot, I hate everyone equally. | corollary: Some are more equal than others.
"Then again, Detective....how often have you dreamed of hearing your father's voice once more? Of feeling your mother's touch?" - Ra's Al Ghul
"According to the Bible, IHVH created the Universe in six days....he obviously didn't know what he was doing." - Darek Steele bani Order of Hermes.
DS's Golden Rule: I am not a bigot, I hate everyone equally. | corollary: Some are more equal than others.
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Server Renders: http://www.libriumarcana.com/Minecraft
LibArc SMP Server Project List
*Sorted by Player(s)
Current Builders: B4UTRUST, HotFootGFH, DarekSilver, Mike1086, DanteMachiavelli, GoingIncognito, Wolf_Rebel
B4UTRUST
Project Behemoth -
Dark Ages Castle
Status: Construction Phase
Project Panopticon -
Floating Citidel
Status: Complete
Project Simon & Garfunkle
Bridge
Status: Complete
Project: Leviathan
Kingdom "Subdivision" construction
Status: Ongoing Planning and Construction
Project ShinShol
Shinigami Solutions Headquarters
Status: Construction Phase
Project Ia!
The Sunken City of R'yleh & Temple of He Who Sleeps Beneath the Water
Status: Planning and Construction
Project Revnant
Underground Citidel
Status: Delayed Indefinatly
HotfootGFH:
DarekSilver:
Project U32
Secured Tunnel from Original Spawn to LibArc House
Status: Complete
Project Teddy Roosevelt
Canal from Spawn to the Tower
Status: Complete
Project "The Jut"
Underground Bunker/Fortress
Status: Construction Phase, Postponed Indefinatly
Project Towerful
"The Tower" complex and Collegum
Status: Construction Phase - 75% done
Project Proper Manners
Steele Manor & Grounds
Status: Complete
Project SteeleTech
SteeleTech Industries, Inc HQ
Status: Planning Phase
Project Terry Brooks
Replica of Paranor, the Druids Keep
Status: Planning Phase
Project Outlier
Border Fort and Proof of Concept for Project Terry Brooks
Status: complete
Project Skyline
Modern City ruins surrounding Project Wonder Twins
Status: Planning Phase
Project Nucleer Wessels
Construction of 18th C Battleship & Frigate, Civil War Era Iron Clad, Modern Era Sea Wolf Attack Sub & CVN.
Status: Planning and Design Phase
DanteMachiavelli
Project When in Rome
Colisseum & Market
Status: Complete
Project Panic
Underground Bunker
Status: Complete
Project Home Sweet Home
Summer Home
Status: Under Construction
Project X
Classified
Status: Classified
Project Public
Machiavelli Industries Public Relations Office
Status: Planning
Project Light Brigade
Cannons in Multi-Player proof of concept
Status: Complete
Project Shelter
Waterfront Home
Status: Construction Ongoing
Mike1086
Project VaultTech
Vault #666
Status: Construction Phase
Wolf_rebel
Project Usurper
Enemy Kingdom & Castle
Status: Construction Phase
GoingIncognito
Project Guiding Light
Lighthouse, Spire and Water Park Mk 1
Status: Complete
Project Porkchop's Play-a-long
???
Status: Planning and Construction Phase
Project Porkchop Express
Construction of a dual tracked high speed railway and accompanying stations
Status: Planning and Development Phase
Joint Projects:
Project LibArc House
Original Homebase
Builders: Hotfoot & B4UTRUST
Status: Mostly Complete
Project Wheatgerm
"All Natural" Housing built without "cheats"
Builders: HotfootGFH & B4UTRUST
Status: Complete
Project Johnny Cash
Railway Construction
Builders: B4UTRUST & DarekSilver
Status: Planning Phase
Project Useless Donkey
Useless Donkey Bar & Grill
Builders: B4UTRUST & DanteMachiavelli
Status: Complete
Project Wonder Twins
Linked Obsidian and Lightstone Towers
Builders: DarekSilver & GoingIncognito
Status: Construction Phase
Project David Bowie
Underground Jail and Maze Complex
Builders: B4UTRUST, Dareksilver & GoingIncognito
Status: Planning Phase
Project "Hi Ho!"
Newbie Welcome Center and Warp Zone
Builders: DarekSilver & B4UTRUST
Status: Complete
Message B4UTRUST or Dark Silver to update this listing.
LibArc SMP Server Project List
*Sorted by Player(s)
Current Builders: B4UTRUST, HotFootGFH, DarekSilver, Mike1086, DanteMachiavelli, GoingIncognito, Wolf_Rebel
B4UTRUST
Project Behemoth -
Dark Ages Castle
Status: Construction Phase
Project Panopticon -
Floating Citidel
Status: Complete
Project Simon & Garfunkle
Bridge
Status: Complete
Project: Leviathan
Kingdom "Subdivision" construction
Status: Ongoing Planning and Construction
Project ShinShol
Shinigami Solutions Headquarters
Status: Construction Phase
Project Ia!
The Sunken City of R'yleh & Temple of He Who Sleeps Beneath the Water
Status: Planning and Construction
Project Revnant
Underground Citidel
Status: Delayed Indefinatly
HotfootGFH:
DarekSilver:
Project U32
Secured Tunnel from Original Spawn to LibArc House
Status: Complete
Project Teddy Roosevelt
Canal from Spawn to the Tower
Status: Complete
Project "The Jut"
Underground Bunker/Fortress
Status: Construction Phase, Postponed Indefinatly
Project Towerful
"The Tower" complex and Collegum
Status: Construction Phase - 75% done
Project Proper Manners
Steele Manor & Grounds
Status: Complete
Project SteeleTech
SteeleTech Industries, Inc HQ
Status: Planning Phase
Project Terry Brooks
Replica of Paranor, the Druids Keep
Status: Planning Phase
Project Outlier
Border Fort and Proof of Concept for Project Terry Brooks
Status: complete
Project Skyline
Modern City ruins surrounding Project Wonder Twins
Status: Planning Phase
Project Nucleer Wessels
Construction of 18th C Battleship & Frigate, Civil War Era Iron Clad, Modern Era Sea Wolf Attack Sub & CVN.
Status: Planning and Design Phase
DanteMachiavelli
Project When in Rome
Colisseum & Market
Status: Complete
Project Panic
Underground Bunker
Status: Complete
Project Home Sweet Home
Summer Home
Status: Under Construction
Project X
Classified
Status: Classified
Project Public
Machiavelli Industries Public Relations Office
Status: Planning
Project Light Brigade
Cannons in Multi-Player proof of concept
Status: Complete
Project Shelter
Waterfront Home
Status: Construction Ongoing
Mike1086
Project VaultTech
Vault #666
Status: Construction Phase
Wolf_rebel
Project Usurper
Enemy Kingdom & Castle
Status: Construction Phase
GoingIncognito
Project Guiding Light
Lighthouse, Spire and Water Park Mk 1
Status: Complete
Project Porkchop's Play-a-long
???
Status: Planning and Construction Phase
Project Porkchop Express
Construction of a dual tracked high speed railway and accompanying stations
Status: Planning and Development Phase
Joint Projects:
Project LibArc House
Original Homebase
Builders: Hotfoot & B4UTRUST
Status: Mostly Complete
Project Wheatgerm
"All Natural" Housing built without "cheats"
Builders: HotfootGFH & B4UTRUST
Status: Complete
Project Johnny Cash
Railway Construction
Builders: B4UTRUST & DarekSilver
Status: Planning Phase
Project Useless Donkey
Useless Donkey Bar & Grill
Builders: B4UTRUST & DanteMachiavelli
Status: Complete
Project Wonder Twins
Linked Obsidian and Lightstone Towers
Builders: DarekSilver & GoingIncognito
Status: Construction Phase
Project David Bowie
Underground Jail and Maze Complex
Builders: B4UTRUST, Dareksilver & GoingIncognito
Status: Planning Phase
Project "Hi Ho!"
Newbie Welcome Center and Warp Zone
Builders: DarekSilver & B4UTRUST
Status: Complete
Message B4UTRUST or Dark Silver to update this listing.
Last edited by Dark Silver on Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:10 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Allen Thibodaux | Archmagus | Supervillain | Transfan | Trekker | Warsie |
"Then again, Detective....how often have you dreamed of hearing your father's voice once more? Of feeling your mother's touch?" - Ra's Al Ghul
"According to the Bible, IHVH created the Universe in six days....he obviously didn't know what he was doing." - Darek Steele bani Order of Hermes.
DS's Golden Rule: I am not a bigot, I hate everyone equally. | corollary: Some are more equal than others.
"Then again, Detective....how often have you dreamed of hearing your father's voice once more? Of feeling your mother's touch?" - Ra's Al Ghul
"According to the Bible, IHVH created the Universe in six days....he obviously didn't know what he was doing." - Darek Steele bani Order of Hermes.
DS's Golden Rule: I am not a bigot, I hate everyone equally. | corollary: Some are more equal than others.
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Minecraft Daily caught up with the CEO of Shinigami Solutions earlier today, looking for a reaction to the recent news of Machiavelli Industries sudden return to weapons manufacturing.
Machiavelli Industries, a one time partner of Shinigami Solutions dropped out of the arms race a while back due to technical difficulties and zoning problems, announced yesterday that they are unveiling a new prototype cannon system geared, they say, towards home defense. In the time between Machiavelli's wind down of their arms program and their sudden start-up, Shinigami Solutions has cornered the market on destructive capabilities, introducing first its Low Orbit Ion Cannon and then the Bunker Buster technology. How will Shinigami Solutions handle the new onset of competition in the weapons market?
When asked, Mr. Trust, CEO of Shinigami Solutions, had this to say; "I personally find nothing to be surprised about. Dante had always lamented his inability to continue his research into weapons manufacturing. This was bound to happen eventually. You can't keep a man like Dante away from something like this. I wish him all the best and can't wait to see what he brings to the table."
Following up, we discussed ShinSol's latest developments and rumors that the company will be competing directly on the same level as Machiavelli Industries. Mr. Trust stated that ShinSol had no plans to compete directly with Machiavelli Industries and that the companies simply did not operate on the same levels of weapons development. He also let us see the new prototype being developed, the Dreadnought Mk. III siege engine. Due out next month the siege engine sports multi-shot capability with variable distance and angle features, making it a must have for siege warfare. He went on to tell us that the Dreadnought class was also going to be available with optional add-ons including living quarters and additional storage capabilities to provide for a operating crew of 4 for up to 2 months of siege operations.
In closing, Mr. Trust told us this, "Be they president or royalty, tyrant or tin-pot dictator or even a petty despot everyone, at sometime or another, needs the firepower to defend themselves, and when needed, take the fight to their enemies. We at Shinigami Solutions only wish to let everyone have these opportunities. At Shinigami Solutions we firmly believe that for every problem there is a final solution."
Machiavelli Industries, a one time partner of Shinigami Solutions dropped out of the arms race a while back due to technical difficulties and zoning problems, announced yesterday that they are unveiling a new prototype cannon system geared, they say, towards home defense. In the time between Machiavelli's wind down of their arms program and their sudden start-up, Shinigami Solutions has cornered the market on destructive capabilities, introducing first its Low Orbit Ion Cannon and then the Bunker Buster technology. How will Shinigami Solutions handle the new onset of competition in the weapons market?
When asked, Mr. Trust, CEO of Shinigami Solutions, had this to say; "I personally find nothing to be surprised about. Dante had always lamented his inability to continue his research into weapons manufacturing. This was bound to happen eventually. You can't keep a man like Dante away from something like this. I wish him all the best and can't wait to see what he brings to the table."
Following up, we discussed ShinSol's latest developments and rumors that the company will be competing directly on the same level as Machiavelli Industries. Mr. Trust stated that ShinSol had no plans to compete directly with Machiavelli Industries and that the companies simply did not operate on the same levels of weapons development. He also let us see the new prototype being developed, the Dreadnought Mk. III siege engine. Due out next month the siege engine sports multi-shot capability with variable distance and angle features, making it a must have for siege warfare. He went on to tell us that the Dreadnought class was also going to be available with optional add-ons including living quarters and additional storage capabilities to provide for a operating crew of 4 for up to 2 months of siege operations.
In closing, Mr. Trust told us this, "Be they president or royalty, tyrant or tin-pot dictator or even a petty despot everyone, at sometime or another, needs the firepower to defend themselves, and when needed, take the fight to their enemies. We at Shinigami Solutions only wish to let everyone have these opportunities. At Shinigami Solutions we firmly believe that for every problem there is a final solution."
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Steeletech Industries , Inc announces new Naval Project
At a press conference today, Steeletech Industries Incorporated President and CEO Darek Silver announced his companies latest Special Project.
"WE here at Steeletech Industries have always took great pride in our construction efforts and our finished products. We believe the Civil Engineering projects we have accomplished in the past, along with the great pride we've taken in such projects as the once glorious Doomhole, have prepared us for the undertaking of our Naval Fleet."
Dubbed "Project Nucleer Wessels", Steeletech Industries will spearhead the construction of several classes of naval ships. Several classes of Naval vehicles are being considered for construction - though Mr Silver was tight lipped about which ones his company will per sue in constructing
At a press conference today, Steeletech Industries Incorporated President and CEO Darek Silver announced his companies latest Special Project.
"WE here at Steeletech Industries have always took great pride in our construction efforts and our finished products. We believe the Civil Engineering projects we have accomplished in the past, along with the great pride we've taken in such projects as the once glorious Doomhole, have prepared us for the undertaking of our Naval Fleet."
Dubbed "Project Nucleer Wessels", Steeletech Industries will spearhead the construction of several classes of naval ships. Several classes of Naval vehicles are being considered for construction - though Mr Silver was tight lipped about which ones his company will per sue in constructing
Allen Thibodaux | Archmagus | Supervillain | Transfan | Trekker | Warsie |
"Then again, Detective....how often have you dreamed of hearing your father's voice once more? Of feeling your mother's touch?" - Ra's Al Ghul
"According to the Bible, IHVH created the Universe in six days....he obviously didn't know what he was doing." - Darek Steele bani Order of Hermes.
DS's Golden Rule: I am not a bigot, I hate everyone equally. | corollary: Some are more equal than others.
"Then again, Detective....how often have you dreamed of hearing your father's voice once more? Of feeling your mother's touch?" - Ra's Al Ghul
"According to the Bible, IHVH created the Universe in six days....he obviously didn't know what he was doing." - Darek Steele bani Order of Hermes.
DS's Golden Rule: I am not a bigot, I hate everyone equally. | corollary: Some are more equal than others.
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This is a MCCNN Breaking News Report! Here's your anchor Willie Will Williamson.
"Hello and welcome everybody to this breaking news report. I'm Willie Williamson. Earlier today scattered reports came in of strange phenomenon happening around the world. People began to find things from their lives to simply be gone. Not missing, but completely vanished. Reports ranged from keys and purses to entire homes, vehicles and even several reported aircraft along with a multitude of reports of people simply ceasing to be. More troubling, however, was the complete lack of response from the World Administratum or any party claiming responsibility. This continued for some time and as it went on, reports of this problematic phenomenon grew worse, finally resulting in entire areas of the world seemingly ceasing to exist at all. People took to the streets to find an answer for this but the silence from on high was deafening.
"However, mere moments ago it came to an end. And strangely enough, the entire thing seemed to reverse itself. Entire lost chunks of the world reappeared whole and people came into existence as if they'd never left. Equally puzzled and perplexed by this new phenomenon, the people of the world eagerly awaited an answer.
"Here to give us that answer is Mr. Trust, CEO of Shinigami Solutions. Mr. Trust, please, tell us, what happened here today. The whole world wants to know."
"Well, Willie, that answer is both simple and very complicated. To begin with, the most recent change of circumstances that everyone has experienced was the activation of technology held by The Administratum. It is a temporal manipulation device that permits The Administratum to integrate pieces of the past into parts of the present. We refer to it as a Temporal Recursion. In this instance we felt it necessary to deploy this technology to prevent further cataclysmic breakdown.
"The events of earlier today were the direct result of an industrial accident caused by the use of experimental displacement technology. During a triggering of this matter displacement, one of the chief builders from a prominent corporation caused a cascading void effect."
"A cascading void effect?"
"Yes, basically what happened is this. The matter displacement technology takes matter from our physical reality and shunts it off into a separate section of reality that we will, for the moment, refer to as a sub-space. In this particular case in the process of reintegrating shunted mass into our reality the device caused a tear in the fabric of space-time. This emerged as a cascading void wherein as the rip continued to grow more and more matter simply ceased to be. Fortunately, we were able to contain the void finally and implement quarantine procedures to keep it from spreading. Following this the Office of Temporal Security wrote off on the creation of a Temporal Recursion to restore normalcy to the world. This, I point out, was not a light undertaking. Use of this technology is restricted to the highest levels and is done in only the direst of circumstances. However, everyone should find that things are restored to normal... for the most part."
"For the most part?"
"Yes. You see to fill in the voids and restore everything to the previous state we pulled parts of the past into the present. As a result there are some expected side effects to this, which have been deemed acceptable when put against the otherwise certain cessation of existence as we know it. Known side effects include feelings of deja-vu, disorientation, mild feelings of an out of body experience, blurred and doubled vision, a paranoid sense that something is missing or wrong, along with a significant possibility that some events that had tanspired have now not. While we have done our best to keep all of these side effects to an absolute minimum there is still bound to be some of these happening. Purchases that were made have now not been. Objects have been moved to different places, minor things of this nature. We do not foresee any major unexpected consequences of this temporal recursion. The feelings and symptoms I listed earlier are expected to last between a few hours and several days. Anyone experiencing prolonged symptoms lasting more than a week should immediately contact your nearest Administratum or Office of Temporal Security representative for assistance."
"I... see. I'm sorry, this is just a little hard to take in. H-how was this displacement technology able to get into their hands? It's just that something so dangerous...shouldn't it be locked up? Controlled?"
"It's a technology that is in development, yes. It is experimental, yes. However, it has been tested extensively and has been heavily utilized in construction projects all over the world. The technology is tightly regimented and all people authorized for the usage of it are trained and scrutinized to ensure every precaution is taken to protect against this sort of accident. However, accidents do occur. That is why there are safeguards in place with agencies like the Office of Temporal Security so that when accidents do occur we can make every effort to correct them."
"So, accidents of this type can happen again?"
"Sadly, yes. But every precaution is taken to minimize the risks of this from occurring."
"Alrighty then. There you have it folks. Mr. Trust, we appreciate your time."
"No problem at all, glad to help shed some light on the situation and quell some of the panic from this."
"I'm sure everyone will rest easier now."
"Hello and welcome everybody to this breaking news report. I'm Willie Williamson. Earlier today scattered reports came in of strange phenomenon happening around the world. People began to find things from their lives to simply be gone. Not missing, but completely vanished. Reports ranged from keys and purses to entire homes, vehicles and even several reported aircraft along with a multitude of reports of people simply ceasing to be. More troubling, however, was the complete lack of response from the World Administratum or any party claiming responsibility. This continued for some time and as it went on, reports of this problematic phenomenon grew worse, finally resulting in entire areas of the world seemingly ceasing to exist at all. People took to the streets to find an answer for this but the silence from on high was deafening.
"However, mere moments ago it came to an end. And strangely enough, the entire thing seemed to reverse itself. Entire lost chunks of the world reappeared whole and people came into existence as if they'd never left. Equally puzzled and perplexed by this new phenomenon, the people of the world eagerly awaited an answer.
"Here to give us that answer is Mr. Trust, CEO of Shinigami Solutions. Mr. Trust, please, tell us, what happened here today. The whole world wants to know."
"Well, Willie, that answer is both simple and very complicated. To begin with, the most recent change of circumstances that everyone has experienced was the activation of technology held by The Administratum. It is a temporal manipulation device that permits The Administratum to integrate pieces of the past into parts of the present. We refer to it as a Temporal Recursion. In this instance we felt it necessary to deploy this technology to prevent further cataclysmic breakdown.
"The events of earlier today were the direct result of an industrial accident caused by the use of experimental displacement technology. During a triggering of this matter displacement, one of the chief builders from a prominent corporation caused a cascading void effect."
"A cascading void effect?"
"Yes, basically what happened is this. The matter displacement technology takes matter from our physical reality and shunts it off into a separate section of reality that we will, for the moment, refer to as a sub-space. In this particular case in the process of reintegrating shunted mass into our reality the device caused a tear in the fabric of space-time. This emerged as a cascading void wherein as the rip continued to grow more and more matter simply ceased to be. Fortunately, we were able to contain the void finally and implement quarantine procedures to keep it from spreading. Following this the Office of Temporal Security wrote off on the creation of a Temporal Recursion to restore normalcy to the world. This, I point out, was not a light undertaking. Use of this technology is restricted to the highest levels and is done in only the direst of circumstances. However, everyone should find that things are restored to normal... for the most part."
"For the most part?"
"Yes. You see to fill in the voids and restore everything to the previous state we pulled parts of the past into the present. As a result there are some expected side effects to this, which have been deemed acceptable when put against the otherwise certain cessation of existence as we know it. Known side effects include feelings of deja-vu, disorientation, mild feelings of an out of body experience, blurred and doubled vision, a paranoid sense that something is missing or wrong, along with a significant possibility that some events that had tanspired have now not. While we have done our best to keep all of these side effects to an absolute minimum there is still bound to be some of these happening. Purchases that were made have now not been. Objects have been moved to different places, minor things of this nature. We do not foresee any major unexpected consequences of this temporal recursion. The feelings and symptoms I listed earlier are expected to last between a few hours and several days. Anyone experiencing prolonged symptoms lasting more than a week should immediately contact your nearest Administratum or Office of Temporal Security representative for assistance."
"I... see. I'm sorry, this is just a little hard to take in. H-how was this displacement technology able to get into their hands? It's just that something so dangerous...shouldn't it be locked up? Controlled?"
"It's a technology that is in development, yes. It is experimental, yes. However, it has been tested extensively and has been heavily utilized in construction projects all over the world. The technology is tightly regimented and all people authorized for the usage of it are trained and scrutinized to ensure every precaution is taken to protect against this sort of accident. However, accidents do occur. That is why there are safeguards in place with agencies like the Office of Temporal Security so that when accidents do occur we can make every effort to correct them."
"So, accidents of this type can happen again?"
"Sadly, yes. But every precaution is taken to minimize the risks of this from occurring."
"Alrighty then. There you have it folks. Mr. Trust, we appreciate your time."
"No problem at all, glad to help shed some light on the situation and quell some of the panic from this."
"I'm sure everyone will rest easier now."
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