LibriumArcana.Games

Following on from the previous thread, what's your favourite 'old game', and of course; Why?

For me: Baldur's Gate. From the first moments in candlekeep to the last battle against Sarevok, that game was just pure brilliance, being true to the DnD formula. It's just so immensely satisfying to unleash a Magic Missile upon someone for the first time.

Hmn...what do we define as old? Pre 99?

Probably Moo2, maybe Cyberstorm2, depending on release date I can sneak Ground Control in.

Actually, given tech development, it could count as pre-2002 if you wish. Simply put; we've come forward so many leaps and bounds in the last year that games of four years ago would be considered vastly obsolete. It really does put a perspective on things if you think about it. That we consider such classics as C&C Red Alert 2, Shogun: Total War and Ground Control as old games.

Of course, I put it to you that these games are timeless and cannot count as old. Of course to reach back to a year before my birth:

Final Fantasy. The first one. Classic game, I must say, despite the fact that I have, admittedly, only really played the revamped version for PSX/GBA.

Starcraft. And it still sells well today!

If so, then I'll shorten my list down to 2 games.

M:TW and Ground Control. Each groundbreaking.

Half-Life. And Day of Defeat v1.3b.

In the truly aging department, Duke Nukem 3D and Command & Conquer.

Homeworld, CnC Red Alert 2, and Civ2.

There's a lot of them but I guess my favorite by a very tiny margin would be BG2:SoA/ToB.

Brother-Captain Gaius wrote: In the truly aging department, Duke Nukem 3D and Command & Conquer.

That's not truly old. Truly old would be Maniac Mansion, Zac McKracken, Wasteland, and the GoldBox games
Oh, and Bard's Tale.
'Before you, you see:
99 Berserks,
99 Berserks,
99 Berserks, and
99 Berserks'.
"Okay, this may take a while."

FPS: Deus Ex & Half-Life(for the mods)
RPG: Arcanum and Balder's Gate
RTS: Starcraft for the win baby!

Elite and Frontier (Elite II).

Frontier and Elite II are actually different games.

Duke Nukem 3d and RTS

Batman wrote:Frontier and Elite II are actually different games.

There may be different games with those names, in North America Elite II was called Frontier: Elite II.

Chrono Trigger and Earthbound! Yay for sprites!
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Fallout, definitely Fallout.
And Fallout 2.
And Oni (anyone ever play that?).

Actually, those are pretty much my favorite games period. With or without the 'old' qualifier.

Cynical Cat wrote:

Batman wrote:Frontier and Elite II are actually different games.

There may be different games with those names, in North America Elite II was called Frontier: Elite II.

Well, at least for the eurpoean market there were three Elite games.
Elite, Elite II, and Frontiers.

Mayabird wrote:Chrono Trigger

Best game ever made. But if you bring in the consoles, almost all the good games are old games. I could bring in Final Fantasy I, IV, V, VI. Dragon Warrior I, II, III, Lunar I, II. Oh that list goes on and on.

Mine:

Police Quest (Sierra, 1987)

Karateka (Broderbund, 1988)

Airborne Ranger (Microprose, 1988)

Test Drive (Accolade, 1988)

Sid Meier's Pirates! (Microrprose, 1988) (bootable floppies, anyone?)

Space Rogue (Origin, 1989)

Windwalker (Origin, 1989)

Red Storm Rising (Microprose, 1989)

Prince of Persia (Broderbund, 1989)

Quest for Glory series (Sierra, 1989-1996)

Sword of the Samurai (Microprose, 1989)

F-19 Stealth Fighter (Microprose, 1989)

F-16 Combat Pilot (Electronic Arts, 1989)

War of the Lance (SSI, 1989)

SSI AD&D "Gold Box" series (SSI, 1989-1991)

Their Finest Hour (Lucasarts, 1990)

D.R.A.G.O.N Force (Interstel, 1990)

Ultima VI (Origin, 1990)

Sid Meier's Railroad Tycoon (Microprose, 1990)

Death Track (Dynamix, 1990)

King's Bounty (New World Computing, 1990)

Wing Commander Series (Origin, 1990-1999)

Gunship 2000 (Microprose, 1991)

Chuck Yeager's Air Combat (LucasArts, 1991)

Medieval Lords (SSI, 1991)

Star Control II (Accolade, 1992)

Ultima VII (Origin, 1992)

Super Fighter (<unknown>, 1992)

Ultima Underworld series (Origin, 1992-1993)

ATAC: The War on Drugs (Microprose, 1993)

Privateer (Origin, 1993)

Strike Commander (Origin, 1994)

Task Force 1942 (Microprose, 1994)

Jagged Alliance (Sir-Tech, 1994)

TIE Fighter (Lucasarts, 1994)

Master of Magic (Microprose, 1994)

System Shock (Origin, 1994)

Star Rangers (Interactive Magic, 1995)

Command & Conquer (Westwood, 1996)

Warcraft II (Blizzard, 1996)

Jane's ATF (Jane's/Electronic Arts, 1996)

Jane's Longbow Gold (Jane's/Electronic Arts, 1996)

Hind (Digital Integration, 1996)

SCARAB (Electronic Arts, 1996)

StarCraft (Blizzard, 1997)

Mechwarrior II Mercenaries (Activision, 1997)

Fragile Allegiance (Interplay, 1997)

Privateer 2 (Origin, 1997)

Jane's Longbow 2 (Jane's/Electronic Arts, 1997)

Fallout (Interplay, 1997)

Heroes II of Might and Magic (New World Computing, 1997)

Jetfighter III (Mission Studios, 1997)

EF 2000 V2.0 (DID, 1997)

Jane's F-15 (Jane's/Electronic Arts, 1998)

Delta Force (Novalogic, 1998)

Team Apache (Simis, 1998)

Flying Corps Gold (Rowan, 1998)

European Air War (Microprose, 1998)

F-22 Raptor (Novalogic, 1998)

Total Air War (DID, 1999)

Expendable (Rage, 1999)

Dungeon Keeper 2 (Electronic Arts, 1999)

Deus Ex (Ion Storm, 2000)

Mig Alley (Rowan, 2000)

Jane's USAF (Jane's/Electronic Arts, 2000)

Crimson Skies (Microsoft, 2000)

Freedom Force (Electronic Arts, 2002)


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Ok, nostalgia time.
And nice to know I'm not the only old fart around here, KAN
I heartily second Pirates, Test Drive, Karateka, Airborne Ranger, QfG series, Red Storm Rising (the only modern sub 'sim' I ever really liked), F-19, WC, JA, WC2, MW2:Mercenaries (despite the technical troubles), FO, and I already mentioned the GoldBox games.
So let's add the rest of mine:
MW, MW2, GBL
BTech: Crescent Hawk's Inception/Revenge
Buck Rogers: Countdown To Doomsday/Matrix Cubed
JA2
Might & Magic II (the game that taught me to never have a single gender party), IV-VII
the aforementioned Bard's Tale series, Maniac Mansion & Zac McKracken
And Shame on KAN for missing
Monkey Island 1&2
Gunship
Strike Fleet
Millenium 2.2 & Deuteros
Hired Guns
Elite 1&2
XCOM 1-3
The Last Ninja
X-Out
Indiana Jones 3 & 4
Day of the Tentacle
Full Throttle
Blade Runner
Planet's Edge
MAX
X-Wing
Privateer (thank Valen for fan remakes)
Star Trek:25th Anniversary (thank Valen for DOSBox)
Crusader:No Remorse & No Regret
Colonisation
Harpoon
Paradroid
ST:TNG A Final Unity
Fallout 2
the Nordland trilogy (DSA 1-3)
Battle Isle 1&2
Dogs of War
MechCommander Gold & 2
Dungeon Master
Panzer General
Pacific General
Fantasy General
MOO2
BG & IWD series
Silent Service 1&2

in no particular order.

Destructionator XV wrote:

Mayabird wrote:Chrono Trigger

Best game ever made. But if you bring in the consoles, almost all the good games are old games. I could bring in Final Fantasy I, IV, V, VI. Dragon Warrior I, II, III, Lunar I, II. Oh that list goes on and on.

I would disagree on FFI, but ditto on IV and especially VI. I might rethink my atheism if they completely remade FFVI with gorgeous modern-day 3D graphics (just think of all the things...the Snow March as Terra, Biggs. and Wedge approach Narshe, the submergence of Figaro, Shadow's dreams, Setzer and Daryl racing their airships, Kefka destroying the world, THE OPERA) and had real opera singers but kept the Kefka laugh in all its insanity. But noooooooo...let's make sequels of FFVII so we'll never get to see any additional Adlai Stevenson references written into Gogo.

FALLOUT! Ah, being the heavily-armed champion of humanity, a goodie-two-shoes that blow the bad guys' heads off.

Final Fantasy I is a great game. I have played through it many a time. It is more non-linear than many of the others, long enough to be a good time, but short enough so I can play through it without burning a couple weeks. The different parties and various challenges I bring upon myself keep it new.

And its soundtrack. Wow. FF1 has one of my favourite game soundtracks ever, and that is great considering it was on such primitive hardware. The graphics were night and bright too, looking on it makes any day better.


And VI. That opera is one of the best scenes EVAR. I have memorized it, for great justice. The world map song is also a keeper for life.

IMO, the game isn't as great as people often say it is, but is is still very, very good. Chrono Trigger easily beats it.

I think a remake could be beautiful, but if done poorly, it could ruin the magic.

Batman wrote: And Shame on KAN for missing
Monkey Island 1&2

Yup, but actually my greater shame is missing this one: :sad:

Batman wrote: Buck Rogers: Countdown To Doomsday/Matrix Cubed

Destructionator XV wrote:Final Fantasy I is a great game. I have played through it many a time. It is more non-linear than many of the others, long enough to be a good time, but short enough so I can play through it without burning a couple weeks. The different parties and various challenges I bring upon myself keep it new.

And its soundtrack. Wow. FF1 has one of my favourite game soundtracks ever, and that is great considering it was on such primitive hardware. The graphics were night and bright too, looking on it makes any day better.


And VI. That opera is one of the best scenes EVAR. I have memorized it, for great justice. The world map song is also a keeper for life.

IMO, the game isn't as great as people often say it is, but is is still very, very good. Chrono Trigger easily beats it.

I think a remake could be beautiful, but if done poorly, it could ruin the magic.

Personally, I just wasn't too impressed by FF1. Granted, I played the original version on an emulator and not the new prettied-up version, but I remember being annoyed by all the random battles I had to do to not be slaughtered by the bosses. I eventually taught myself to do my reading for class while I tapped the keys. It just wasn't my thing.

I remember the first time I played Chrono Trigger. I was at a friend's house, and he let me play on one of his saved games. I accidentally teleported to Lavos and got the entire team killed (one hit, too. Lavos did the "destruction rains from the heavens" thing and WHAM!). Then I got the bad ending. I'd gotten game overs before, but I'd never destroyed the entire world. It freaked me out.

Mayabird wrote:I remember the first time I played Chrono Trigger. I was at a friend's house, and he let me play on one of his saved games. I accidentally teleported to Lavos and got the entire team killed (one hit, too. Lavos did the "destruction rains from the heavens" thing and WHAM!). Then I got the bad ending. I'd gotten game overs before, but I'd never destroyed the entire world. It freaked me out.

Well I actually felt the same way when the first time I casted Armageddon spell in Ultima VI. To be frank, the world wasn't exactly destroyed, but all the population (including my party members) just plain disappeared, save Lord British who was then refused to speak at all. It was scary.

Mayabird wrote: Personally, I just wasn't too impressed by FF1. Granted, I played the original version on an emulator and not the new prettied-up version, but I remember being annoyed by all the random battles I had to do to not be slaughtered by the bosses.

I played the original on the NES many years ago, and still do. I enjoy random battle level uping to an extent. The remake wasn't as impressive IMO, they changed the battle system and I felt it was cheapened.

Just different tastes, I guess.

I remember the first time I played Chrono Trigger. I was at a friend's house, and he let me play on one of his saved games. I accidentally teleported to Lavos and got the entire team killed (one hit, too. Lavos did the "destruction rains from the heavens" thing and WHAM!). Then I got the bad ending. I'd gotten game overs before, but I'd never destroyed the entire world. It freaked me out.

Oh wow, that game the first time was a special expirence for me too. The same thing happened, Lavos. The future was so pretty before he messed it up.

I actually acquired my copy of CT before I got a SNES. That game was just that damn good.