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#1 Looking to Buy a Laptop - No idea where to start! Eeek!

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:19 pm
by Squidgey
Good Morning everybody,

It's been a while since I posted here, which seems kinda stupid as it's the perfect place to discuss quite alot of interesting biology/science based queries I'm havinga s I study at university.

Anyways, to topic:

I NEED a Laptop, like immediately, as I have limited computer and net access at home and need it on a daily basis, 1, for gaming that I do daily, and 2, for uni work and research etc. I want a laptop overa computer as I need to travel 2 hours each way to get to and from uni and can use a laptop to do work on the train trips.

Anyways, on a technical level i have no idea what the hell anything computer/laptop means, I don't understand how everything works and the difference between this or that graphics card, system or whatever.

So I'm after advice on a laptop that is both an effective gaming laptop (online gaming, RTS, FPS etc etc) and can also be used as a normal computer, so like Microsoft office etc. Windows as opposed to something else, and a PC as opposed to a mac. I was directed at Alienware, but it all seems confusing to me still, all this technical stuff I have no idea abpout! :cry:

So any advice or help people can give me would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Squidgey.

#2

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:02 pm
by Ra
Don't buy a Toshiba Sattelite. I made the mistake of doing that and I'm stuck with a US$1,000 piece of utter shit. That is all.

#3

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:38 pm
by Dark Silver
Acer currently has a very nice sub-1000$ USD which includes a Radeon X1100 video card built in. It runs a intel core duo processor, gig of ram, and 160gb of hdd. The only kick is a 15" screen.

But still, it's nice.....

I suggest taking a closer look at Acer and HP laptops.

#4

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:02 pm
by Batman
If money isn't a concern (yeah, right) insert my token recommendation of IBM ThinkPads. They're high quality, you know you can still get replacement parts two years from now, and above all, they're BLACK. :razz:

On a more serious note, HP has a rather good reputation for their notebooks, and several people I know are quite happy with theirs. Yes, I know, anecdotal evidence, but I'm not digging up any statistics at 1 am.

And while a 15" screen means less screen space it ALSO means more portability, because the notebook will be smaller.

#5

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:25 pm
by Lonestar
Batman wrote:
On a more serious note, HP has a rather good reputation for their notebooks, and several people I know are quite happy with theirs. Yes, I know, anecdotal evidence, but I'm not digging up any statistics at 1 am.
I enjoyed mine for two years, at it was only within the past 6 months or so I started to hit walls in gaming. I think HP is a good buy, but if you feel like tossing Two Grand downrange you can always get a ASUS G2S-A1.

#6

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:30 pm
by B4UTRUST
Batman wrote:On a more serious note, HP has a rather good reputation for their notebooks, and several people I know are quite happy with theirs. Yes, I know, anecdotal evidence, but I'm not digging up any statistics at 1 am.
There are special levels of hell reserved for the HP/Compaq company. I owned one of their laptops. That laptop lasted little over a year before it died a painful, horrible, terrible death. I still owe over $1000 on it. Worst mistake I ever made. Piece of shit all the way from the word go. I got it and I had to get the CD rom drive warrentied as it wouldn't read discs.

So no HP/Compaq products. They are in fact, evil incarnate. The devil himself refuses to touch them for fear he may be corrupted. We're talking Shub-Nigurath levels of evil here...

#7

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:33 pm
by Lonestar
B4UTRUST wrote:
There are special levels of hell reserved for the HP/Compaq company. I owned one of their laptops. That laptop lasted little over a year before it died a painful, horrible, terrible death. I still owe over $1000 on it. Worst mistake I ever made. Piece of shit all the way from the word go. I got it and I had to get the CD rom drive warrentied as it wouldn't read discs.

So no HP/Compaq products. They are in fact, evil incarnate. The devil himself refuses to touch them for fear he may be corrupted. We're talking Shub-Nigurath levels of evil here...
I disagree(as long as we're giving "Come to Jesus" examples :razz: ), I've had mine for two years with no problems, none, that were HP's fault(I had this crazy idea all I would need is 60GB...) and still use it as a backup for my primary. I even was able to upgrade the memory, and I was a little worried about proprietary HP problems, but it was all good.

#8

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:36 pm
by B4UTRUST
Maybe I just managed to get the one bad laptop off the lot. But I've heard others who have had shitty laptops from them.

#9

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:09 pm
by Batman
Might be the difference between genuine HP and used to be Compaq HP. The way I feel about Compaq makes B4 look compassionate so...

#10

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:08 am
by B4UTRUST
But Bats, they're they same company. Inside is the same components, built by the same people and the same people give you tech support. It's the same company, just a different branding sticker slapped on.

#11

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:28 am
by The Cleric
I had an HP laptop that was great 95% of the time, and an utter disaster the other 5% (sent back for warranty once, bad HD and they sent me the wrong replacement the first time, and its mobo keeled over 2 weeks out of warranty). However, I know 2 other people who bought the EXACT SAME laptop with the same specs on it and have had 0 problems for the past 4 years. Take that for what it's worth.

#12

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:47 am
by LadyTevar
Sounds like Monday/Friday Lemons to me.

My dear sister Devonie is the one to give horror stories about laptops. Poor things barely last 6mons around her.

Of course, having "Not Me" drop and break the monitor last month is only the lastest adventure. (for those unable to place the reference, refer to Family Circus)

#13

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:35 pm
by Gandalf
It turns out that I'm in the same boat (and city) as Squidgey.

Are Dell laptops considered good?

#14

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:08 pm
by Lonestar
Gandalf wrote:It turns out that I'm in the same boat (and city) as Squidgey.

Are Dell laptops considered good?
Christ no. The Army issues them out and they suck. There's something in the BIOS that, for the longest time, caused only one of the two Core 2 Duo processors to work. It's since been fixed, but that was enough to permanently turn me off them.

#15

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:16 pm
by Batman
As for someone who worked with Dell laptops in the past, let me add that that's about par for the course for them.

I can't speak for the Dell desktops, but their laptops make Compaq look good.

#16

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:03 am
by Gandalf
Ok, right now it looks like I might be saving to get an Apple Macbook thingy.

All I really need is something on which to do uni work and basic crap like that. Mac seems the obvious candidate for this because of their supposed stability and such.

#17

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:55 am
by B4UTRUST
Avoid the cult of Mac! Avoid the cult of Mac! Jobs if not your god! Avoid the cult of Mac!

#18

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:58 pm
by The Cleric
If you can afford it, I've heard amazing things about IBM.

#19

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:22 pm
by Batman
:razz:

#20

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:44 pm
by Something Awesome
If it matters, I'm using a Lenovo 3000 C100 that I got last summer that has given me very few problems (shipped with a faulty LCD [fixed up for free real quick]). I've never once seen a Blue-Screen, no problems running the latest Office programs or Defcon. This one only has a Celeron M, but you can probably get a Core Duo pretty cheap now. I think it only cost me around $7-800 at the time.

#21

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:24 am
by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman
Here's what my experience has told me:

Avoid like plague: Toshiba, Sony, Fujitsu. Toshiba particularly SUCKS.

So-so: HP/Compaq & Acer. I have to admit that my old Turion-based HP notebook still runs very fine, but I've also heard unhappy stories about the brand.

Reccommended: Lenovo & Dell. One thing I like I like about IBM is they're extremely durable (one night I got drunk and vomited on my IBM notebook, and it still runs even now!), and they still keep the "durable" quality even after changing the brand name to Lenovo.