Hard Drive issues, any help?

Post by **B4UTRUST** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:21 am

So I'm working on my comp last night and start hearing a really odd noise coming from my system. So I shut it down and try to figure out if one of the fans got stuck or something, nothing that I could see. Restarted it and the noise didn't come back, just assumed it was a glitch or something.

But anyhow, it wouldnt boot into windows after that. Kept giving me an error saying that there was no 80 conductor cable installed on ide1. This is rather odd since this is the same two hard drives and same cable I've been using since I built this rig and never seen that error before. Fucking weird to say the least. And it won't go past that point.

I shut down again and unplug my second ide drive(the slave) in it and restart again. It'll load into windows now, but still gives that error msg it just bypasses it. But it won't start at all with the 2nd drive installed.

Nothing has changed in the system, I haven't replaced any wires or cables or anything. Any thoughts on whats suddenly causing me not to be able to use my second drive at all because of a cable error?

For troubleshooting purposes I tried to use the ide cable off the back of my two cd-rom drives andit gave me the same error, as did another ide cable, though I'm not sure if they're 40 conductor or 80 conductor.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:34 am

How old your second drive is?

Post by **B4UTRUST** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:03 am

Couple of years but I don't think it would suddenly go bad. Normally there are indicators and such that a drive is going to die. This was an all of a sudden 'Hey, I'm not cooperating' thing

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:52 am

B4UTRUST wrote:Couple of years but I don't think it would suddenly go bad.

Well, since your system starts with the secondary hard drive unplugged (albeit still with warnings), not to mention the noise, the second one is still my biggest suspect. However, there's still another possibility; your mobo's IDE controller (IDE1) is damaged in some ways that now it gives an error whenever you have two hard drives (and still gives error despite you have unplugged the secondary).

I just wonder: can you unplug the first hard drive, while the second hard drive stays? Of course you cannot boot (since the second has no OS, right?). And then try booting with Knoppix or other linux OS that can be ran from CD. Then try to browse the contents of the secondary hard drive. If you can, then it's probably your mobo's IDE controller.

PS: you have swapped IDE cables and the problem stayed, so I don't think it's a cable problem.

Post by **B4UTRUST** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:12 pm

So it ended up being absolutely nothing to do with my HD. I started thinking about it and I realized I was diagnosing the problem as a normal person and not as a computer person.

It was saying IDE1. Computers start counting at 0. IDE 0 is the line my HDs were on. IDE 1 is the one my cd rom drives were on. Swapped the cable out there and all of a sudden everything's back up and running again. Why it suddenly wouldn't boot with my 2nd hard drive in is beyond me, but it works now. Odd. Oh well.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:21 am

B4UTRUST wrote:It was saying IDE1. Computers start counting at 0. IDE 0 is the line my HDs were on. IDE 1 is the one my cd rom drives were on.

And I was thinking that you actually connect your hard drives to IDE1, and your CDs are connected to IDE0.

B4UTRUST wrote:Swapped the cable out there and all of a sudden everything's back up and running again.

So it's actually cable problem, isn't it?

B4UTRUST wrote:Why it suddenly wouldn't boot with my 2nd hard drive in is beyond me, but it works now. Odd. Oh well.

Can you now boot with your 2nd (slave) hard drive connected, after replacing them with good cables?

Post by **B4UTRUST** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:11 am

Yeah, everything's back to normal now. Weird, huh?

Edit:

Crap. Apparently the cable swap just fixed the error msg. The HD isn't working at all. I tossed it in an external enclosure and it's not even recognizing. So my HD is apparently completely toasted. Which blows. I had lots of useful data on that drive, though nothing absoluetely important. Some anime, some movies, etc. Not anything I can't live without I suppose. I guess I get to go buy a new HD now. Yay. Another 500Gb drive. Over 1 TB of data....yes....

Yes, I'm trying to turn tragedy into a benefit. Because more HD space is always good...

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:04 pm

B4UTRUST wrote:So my HD is apparently completely toasted. Which blows. I had lots of useful data on that drive, though nothing absoluetely important.

Does it mean that you lost all the porn? :sad:

Post by **Dark Silver** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:12 pm

As someone who has been to Scottie's house, and networked to his computer to fileshare from it...allow me to set aside your fears KAN.

No, he did not lose the porn...the bastard has more HDD's in his tower than 2.....and he's so disorganized on his extra HDD's that you could wipe out 90% of his drives, and he'd still have porn somewhere....

Post by **B4UTRUST** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:17 am

Are you kidding me? 90%? Is that is? Please. You could wipe out every drive in my tower currently (omnimessiah bless that the spirits don't) and I'd still have porn somewhere.

The depth of the data storage systems in my house is awe-inspiring.

Over a terabyte of HD space on my computer alone, plus all the other systems, drives, and media that is scatter throughout. A lot of which even DS, in his multiple visits, is unaware of.

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