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We haven't had a thread on this issue yet, so here are a couple of articles on it:

Experts testify on grim ecological fallout from Gulf oil spill
Washington (CNN) -- The damaging effects of the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico will be felt all the way to Europe and the Arctic, a top scientist told a congressional panel Friday.

Other scientists and researchers -- invited to brief members of the House Energy and Commerce Committee -- warned that the thousands of barrels of oil still gushing into the Gulf are contributing to a potential ecological disaster of unknown proportions.

The briefing was part of an ongoing effort to draw on a broad range of expertise for what has been, in the eyes of many observers, a frustrating and ineffective cleanup effort.

"This is not just a regional issue for the wildlife," said Carl Safina, the president of the Blue Ocean Institute. Noting common migratory patterns, he warned that multiple forms of marine life from across the Atlantic Ocean "come into the Gulf to breed."

Safina blasted BP, the company in control of the well responsible for the spill.

"I think asking BP for answers is the wrong place to look," he said. "They seem to have cut corners on some critical junctures. We keep asking their permission to go down and measure the oil that's coming out. ... This mystifies me, because they are on our property now."

BP, he said, "blew it in a really huge way. Unfortunately, it's now up to all of us to figure out exactly what to do next."

The National Geographic Society's Sylvia Earle said that asking for BP to play a leading role in containment efforts was akin to "relying on the foxes to look after the chicken coop."

"The lack of knowing [the extent of the spill and the damage] is something that we should fear," she said. There is a "lack of understanding what the consequences of this action really will be to the ocean and then back to ourselves."

The researchers disputed the value of trying to break up the spill by injecting chemicals into the column of pressurized crude oil erupting from the seabed floor.

"We don't know effects of dispersants applied a mile underwater. There's been no laboratory testing at all," Earle noted.

"Adding the dispersants ... is causing other problems" because the quantity used is likely to be toxic to marine life, she warned.

Researcher Carys Mitchelmore of the University of Maryland agreed that there is a risk of doing more harm than good with the chemicals.

"I'm very concerned, because I don't know," she said. "There are so many unknowns. We can't see these organisms dying and dropping to the sea bed."

Mitchelmore noted that both the crude oil plume and the chemicals used to counteract it are "so hard to follow. It's much easier to see a surface slick."

Safina argued that BP was using the dispersants as a public relations tool, so cameras can't see the extent of the oil slick.
While BP should not be in charge of the cleanup, they should pay for it. What a screw up this turned out to be. Ugh.

Better not get a tropical storm while this mess is on the water. Sadly, there probably will be, since this will take quite a while to deal with.


Fortunately, there seems to be some momentum behind the plans for an investigation:

Obama forms bipartisan commission to investigate oil spill:

Washington (CNN) -- President Obama has issued an executive order establishing a bipartisan commission tasked with investigating how to prevent future oil spills, two sources familiar with the announcement said Friday.

Obama named former Florida Sen. Bob Graham and former Environmental Protection Agency William K. Reilly as commission co-chairs.

The sources said Obama on Saturday will announce the formation of the panel, officially known as the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling, as the administration faces a growing chorus of criticism about whether it is putting enough pressure on BP to clean up the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

After this weekend's official formation, the commission will have six months to issue a report with recommendations on how to prevent spills from offshore drilling.

Before the recent spill, Obama had opened the door to potential expansion of offshore drilling as part of a comprehensive energy reform plan. He has since faced a storm of criticism from fellow Democrats in states like Florida, who now want him to scrap those plans.

In the Gulf, the "top kill" method intended to stop the runaway flow of oil will likely be tried early next week, BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said Friday.

In the procedure, thick, viscous fluid twice the density of water will be pumped at a high rate into the site of the leak to stop the flow so that it can then be sealed with cement, Suttles said.

"Our best estimate is probably Tuesday," he said, noting that the operation has never been tried in such deep water.

The timing for the "top kill" effort appears to be slipping: BP Managing Director Bo Dudley said Thursday night that the company would try the procedure this weekend.

Suttles offered no explanation for the discrepancy.

"We're working very, very hard with BP on the timeline for the 'top kill,' " said U.S. Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, national incident commander. "That's the ultimate near-term solution."

BP is working to assemble "a massive amount of equipment" at the site, Suttles said, including three deep-water rigs, drilling rigs, sub-sea support vessels and up to 16 robotic submarines.

"These operations are quite complex, and we won't start the job until all the equipment has been staged and all the equipment is in place," he said.

But no one expects the effort to solve all the problems associated with the spill.

"We will not rest, even if they secure the flow, even if this 'top kill' is completed successfully next week," Coast Guard Rear Adm. Mary Landry said. "We have a long row to hoe" to ensure that the damage that has already occurred is mitigated.

Landry expressed disappointment Friday over BP's efforts to clean up oil on the shores of Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana.

Though boom and skimmers had been staged there, "the folks were hesitating in deploying that," she said.

Asked to what degree it will be possible to clean oil from the marshes, Allen said that oil in the marshes is "the worst-case scenario for us to deal with in terms of recovery." That's because mechanical cleanup can do more harm than good, he said.

"In some cases, burning may be an acceptable solution," he said. Any such decision would be made on the scene in consultation with representatives of the state and the parishes involved, he said.

But officials had unqualified praise for the weather, which has been cooperating fully in recent days, leaving the seas dead calm.

"These are ideal conditions for skimming," Landry said, noting that the percentage skimmed has risen to at least 50 percent from the typical 10 percent.

Sub-sea dispersants are also being used, she said, "so we're not seeing a lot of oil coming to the surface."

On Thursday, the Environmental Protection Agency ordered BP to find a less toxic chemical to break up the oil than the one it has been using, Corexit 9500. The chemical has been rated more toxic and less effective than many others on the list of 18 EPA-approved dispersants, according to testimony at a congressional hearing Wednesday.

BP has found no immediate replacement candidate, Suttles said. "Our analysis that we submitted to EPA last night said there were no other dispersants we could identify that were available and less toxic," he said.

BP was to meet later Friday with the EPA to discuss alternatives, he said.

As the continuing spill enters its second month, debate and concern have focused on just how much oil is spewing from the broken riser a mile below the surface. A federal technical team comprising scientists from the federal government and academia has been charged with estimating the flow rate based on video and other data. The estimate will be peer-reviewed and "given rigorous oversight by the federal government and academia," Landry said.

That estimate is likely to be complete "sometime next week," she said.

BP has estimated the flow at 5,000 barrels per day, but independent estimates have exceeded that by many times, and Suttles acknowledged Friday that the company's estimate contains "a huge amount of uncertainty."

The 5,000-barrel figure translates into 210,000 gallons per day. That's 8,750 gallons per hour, 145.8 gallons per minute and 2.4 gallons per second.

Suttles said he flew over the region Friday morning and saw no oil close to the coasts of Alabama, Mississippi or Florida.

But oil has shown up in seven locations on shore so far, with no new sightings in the past day, according to Suttles. He said cleanup activities were going on in each location.

Other efforts to stanch the leak continue. Drilling of the first of two relief wells has reached 8,950 feet, said Lars Herbst, regional director for the Gulf of Mexico of the Minerals Management Service, and work on the other has begun.

U.S. Rep. Charlie Melancon, D-Louisiana, concerned about people who are working to clean up the spill, has asked the White House to set up temporary health care centers along the Gulf Coast to serve volunteers and workers.

Melancon envisions such clinics as providing "medical checkups to people who have come in contact with the oil and assist[ing] in monitoring the health effects of the oil leak on south Louisianians."

He sent the request Wednesday to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. There was no immediate response from the agency.

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"Many residents and volunteers are being exposed to hazardous materials on a daily basis, and some will have to travel hours to get treatment at the nearest health care facility. It is imperative that temporary health care clinics be established to provide basic health care services in this geographic area," he said.

He has also asked Sebelius to "appoint a health care coordinator to oversee and streamline the health care response."

Melancon emphasized that BP should be responsible for such health care services in his state. The energy giant was operating the oil rig that exploded and sank in April, triggering the spill.

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The spill began with an April 20 explosion and fire that sank the drill rig Deepwater Horizon two days later. Eleven workers were lost with the rig, which was owned by drilling contractor Transocean and hired by BP.

The resulting slick now threatens the coastal marshes of southeastern Louisiana, where brown, syrupy oil made it past protective booms and into the wetlands near the mouth of the Mississippi River on Wednesday.
Does anyone better versed than I know how likely this is to do any good?
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I have said it before, and will say it again. The executives of BP, Transocean, and Haliburton, as well as their lobbyists and everyone involved with their regulation at the Mineral Management Service, and let us not forget the individual's who's decisions lead to this disaster (like the ones who did not notice the bad blowout preventer seal or refused to fix it) needs to be taken to the gulf coast and scourged. They then need to have their wounds cleaned with salt water, and be be made to carry the cross beams of the crosses they are to be crucified on to the I-10 where they will be nailed up in proper roman fashion (nailed in wrist and palm, lifted up to have the post inserted into the joint in the cross beam and then have their ankles nailed to the sides of the cross). They should be arranged evenly spaced and facing the coastline they raped, and a sign posted on their cross saying:

"Behold Ye The Corrupt and Negligent"
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The latest news(link)

EPA: "Hey, BP, we're a little concerned about your use of Corexit as a chemical dispersant, there are less toxic alternatives. We're going to recommend you stop using it by the end of the week."

BP: "Nah, we're going to keep using it."

EPA: "...ok."
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Derek Thunder wrote:The latest news(link)

EPA: "Hey, BP, we're a little concerned about your use of Corexit as a chemical dispersant, there are less toxic alternatives. We're going to recommend you stop using it by the end of the week."

BP: "Nah, we're going to keep using it."

EPA: "...ok."
Dr. Rand Paul is absolutely right! See?! See how Big Government is just STOMPING ITS BOOT on the neck of BP? That's so un-American.
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Windswept wrote:
Derek Thunder wrote:The latest news(link)

EPA: "Hey, BP, we're a little concerned about your use of Corexit as a chemical dispersant, there are less toxic alternatives. We're going to recommend you stop using it by the end of the week."

BP: "Nah, we're going to keep using it."

EPA: "...ok."
Dr. Rand Paul is absolutely right! See?! See how Big Government is just STOMPING ITS BOOT on the neck of BP? That's so un-American.
Add him to the crucifixion list.
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To be fair, the BOP wasn't bad when installed.

It became bad because the idiots on the rig pulled a entire joint (30' section) of pipe through a CLOSED BOP, damaging the mechanism. And once their installed....changing out a BOP tends to be....an issue.

Technically, and I am loathe to say it, Halliburton is clear of wrongdoing in this instance - they actually did the job as they are suppossed to do - they followed orders given to them by the Site Operator (in this case, BP), and anything else they could have done, would have been against their orders and open them up to a suit by BP and TransOcean - maybe even MMS and the EPA.
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Dark Silver wrote:To be fair, the BOP wasn't bad when installed.

It became bad because the idiots on the rig pulled a entire joint (30' section) of pipe through a CLOSED BOP, damaging the mechanism. And once their installed....changing out a BOP tends to be....an issue.

Technically, and I am loathe to say it, Halliburton is clear of wrongdoing in this instance - they actually did the job as they are suppossed to do - they followed orders given to them by the Site Operator (in this case, BP), and anything else they could have done, would have been against their orders and open them up to a suit by BP and TransOcean - maybe even MMS and the EPA.
True but they are guilty of other crimes.
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Guilty of other crimes in other parts of the world and industries.....

but in this instance, they're actually pretty safe in this instance. Trust me, I have no love for Halliburton in general, but every one of their Cement Crews I've worked on while working in the Oil Industry, have done their jobs correctly and by the book.
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What about the dead battery on the BOP control panel? Was that Halliburton's problem or was it Transocean?

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/ta ... d-dead.php
It has been discovered that the Deepwater Horizon's blowout preventer had:
- A dead battery;
- Leaks in the hydraulic system that would activate the pistons in the ["unforeseeable"] event of an accident;
- By design, 260 different failures that could require the BOP's removal and replacement;
- A useless test component installed, and;
- Cutting tools that were not strong enough to shear through 10% of the joints in the piping.
It's a partisan source, but seems to be on the up-and-up.
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