Iran leader: Move Israel to Europe

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CNN

TEHRAN, Iran (Reuters) -- Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has expressed doubt that the Holocaust occurred and suggested Israel be moved to Europe.

His comments, reported by Iran's official IRNA news agency from a news conference he gave on Thursday in the Saudi Arabian city of Mecca, follows his call in October for Israel to be "wiped off the map," which sparked widespread international condemnation.

"Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces and they insist on it to the extent that if anyone proves something contrary to that they condemn that person and throw them in jail," IRNA quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.

"Although we don't accept this claim, if we suppose it is true, our question for the Europeans is: is the killing of innocent Jewish people by Hitler the reason for their support to the occupiers of Jerusalem?" he said.

"If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in Europe -- like in Germany, Austria or other countries -- to the Zionists and the Zionists can establish their state in Europe. You offer part of Europe and we will support it."

Six million Jews were killed in the Nazi Holocaust. Ahmadinejad's remarks drew swift rebukes from Israel and Washington.

"This is not the first time, unfortunately, that the Iranian president has expressed the most outrageous ideas concerning Jews and Israel," said Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev.

"He is not just Israel's problem. He is a worry for the entire international community," he added.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said: "It just further underscores our concerns about the regime in Iran and it's all the more reason why it's so important that the regime not have the ability to develop nuclear weapons."

Once allies
Religious hardliners in Iran do not publicly deny the Holocaust happened, but say its scale has been exaggerated to justify the creation of Israel and continued Western support for it.

Close allies when Iran was ruled by the U.S.-backed Shah, Iran and Israel have become implacable foes since Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution.

Israel accuses Iran of giving arms and funding to militant Palestinian groups such as Islamic Jihad and of building nuclear weapons. Iran denies the charges.

Tehran calls Israel a "terrorist state" and has developed missiles that can reach it. It says it would use them if Israel, itself believed to be nuclear-armed, tried to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities.

Earlier in his remarks, the Iranian president, a former Revolutionary Guardsman who won a surprise election victory in June, said:

"The question is, where do those who rule in Palestine as occupiers come from? Where were they born? Where did their fathers live? They have no roots in Palestine but they have taken the fate of Palestine in their hands.

"Isn't the right to national self-determination one of the principles of the United Nations charter? Why do they deprive Palestinians of this right?"

Jews trace their roots in Israel back to Biblical times.

Ahmadinejad concluded his remarks by reiterating Iran's proposal that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict be resolved via a referendum of all the inhabitants of Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, as well as Palestinian refugees in neighboring countries.

"Whatever they decide will be accepted by all humanity. This is a clear democratic solution which is based on international principles," he said.

Holy shit someone is fucking crazy and he could end up with nukes...

[Robert Walper]

The more I read about the events and happenings over there, the less and less I think "nukes might become an issue" and instead think "I wonder when the first one is going to go off".

And then I wonder what the heck the world is going to do about it?

[Rukia]

The more I read about the events and happenings over there, the less and less I think "nukes might become an issue" and instead think "I wonder when the first one is going to go off".

And then I wonder what the heck the world is going to do about it?

It doesn't help that 2/3 of the worlds leaders are button happy freaks...

"c'mon lemme push it! I wanna do it... pleeeease?"

[The Silence and I]

I'm feeling more than a might pessimistic right now, and I'm inclined to say there is nothing that can be effectively done.

Iran and countires like really should not be allowed to have such weaponry, however I don't see a political climate allowing any resolution of this. I mean, what are we (world) going to do about it? Talk? Ha! Use military force? Maybe... but who will do it? Israel? I'm sure they'd like to, but will they risk it, being in range of retaliation? The USA might try something, but really it would have to be 'tomorrow' or something like that, US forces simply cannot occupy so many places at once right now. And Europe? Ha! Britan might be willing to help out, but I think most of Europe has made it quite clear how involved they want to be right now.

By the time the political climate/and or military realities allow the use of force it could easily be too late.

Of course I am very pessimistic right now...

[B4UTRUST]

Di-did I read that right?

The holocaust did not happen.

Well... holy shit.

As someone who actually has seen the concentration camps, has been through Dachau, Auschwitz-Birkenau, and others... Again...Wow.

For this you win:



Sadly I read things like this and all I can do is see where I'll be spending more months of my life in the military. We can't nuke them, because there are innocents in that country. We can't start an invasion yet to preemptively stop this, because they haven't done anything to us, but damned if we won't be there as soon as they go to war.

So yes, someone will have the chance to nuke a country or two off the map before the US or any other major power gets involved. Got to love the state of the world.

[Lord Stormbringer]

Di-did I read that right?

The holocaust did not happen.

Well... holy shit.

As someone who actually has seen the concentration camps, has been through Dachau, Auschwitz-Birkenau, and others... Again...Wow.

Mein Kampf is a best seller second only to the Koran itself in most of the Middle East. Those that don't deny the Holocaust think it's a wonderful idea. What do you really expect from these wack-a-loons?

[The Silence and I]

I.. did not really need to know that. :sad: