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#1 Massive explosions at Britain fuel depot
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:56 am
by Mayabird
BBC News wrote:Massive explosions hit fuel depot
A fire is continuing to blaze at a fuel depot in Hertfordshire after a series of large explosions sent black smoke drifting up to 40 miles away.
Police say 43 people were injured, two of them seriously, after flames shot hundreds of feet into the sky.
The incident at the Buncefield fuel depot, after 0600 GMT near junction 8 of the M1, was said to be the largest of its kind in peacetime Europe.
The fire, which police believe was an accident, could burn for another day.
About 2000 people living nearby the Hemel Hempstead site have been evacuated, while police have advised others to keep their windows and doors closed because of fumes.
Amateur footage
Thick clouds of smoke are spreading to the south-east and south-west of the site.
One person is in Watford General Hospital in intensive care with respiratory problems. Another person is in Hemel Hempstead Hospital being kept under observation.
The other 41 people were treated for minor injuries and discharged.
Witnesses said another two explosions followed the first at 0626 GMT and 0627 GMT.
Further explosions
In total, 20 petrol tanks were involved in the fire, each said to hold three million gallons of fuel.
Hertfordshire Police Chief Constable Frank Whiteley said: "There is still a possibility there could be further explosions."
A police investigation into the incident has begun, including investigations by anti-terrorist police.
But Chief Con Whiteley said there was "nothing to suggest anything other than an accident".
A Hertfordshire fire service spokesman said: "This is the largest incidence of its kind in peacetime Europe."
Samples of the smoke are being taken to determine the long term effects of exposure, if any, according to the regional director of public health Jane Halpin.
Tanker driver Paul Turner said he ran for his life after the explosion lifted him off his feet.
"I just saw this great big ball of fire come up from behind the building. It was about 50 metres wide," he told the BBC.
"Then there was the loudest explosion I have ever heard in my life. I got up, turned around and ran to my car and sped out of there as fast as I could."
Many houses have been damaged, with some reporting feeling effects from the explosion as far away as Oxfordshire - while it was heard in a number of counties and even France and the Netherlands.
Traffic chaos
Eye witnesses reported buckled front doors, cracked walls and blown-out windows.
The M1 has been closed both ways between junctions 6a and 12 and may remain shut on Monday morning.
The M10 motorway is closed in both directions between junction 1 and junction 7 as well as some arterial roads in Hemel Hempstead.
Motorists have been told not to go "anywhere near the M1 from the M25 upwards".
At Heathrow airport some flights were forced to delay landing because of smoke, but Luton airport was said to be operating as usual.
The Buncefield depot is a major distribution terminal operated by Total and part-owned by Texaco, storing oil, petrol as well as kerosene which supplies airports across the region, including Heathrow and Luton.
The country's fifth largest fuel distribution depot, it is also used by BP, Shell and British Pipeline.
Police said there was no indication the explosion would cause fuel shortages and warned against panic-buying.
"We strongly advise against this as recent events have shown that panic buying alone can cause fuel shortages," said Chief Con Whiteley.
A spokesman for Total said: "We are doing everything we can to support the emergency services and to bring the situation under control."
A spokesman for the Department for Trade and Industry said it was too early to say what the effect would be on fuel supply but oil companies were arranging to get oil from other parts of the south east and across the UK.
"We understand that the oil industry is meeting this afternoon to determine how the supply of petroleum products can be augmented from other distribution terminals," he said.
Shadow trade and industry secretary Alan Duncan, a former oil trader, said the oil industry had a first class safety record.
"This dramatic explosion will need a serious inquiry and a proper study of its implications," he said.
A spokesman for the Health and Safety Executive said it would be investigating the incident.
Concerned relatives can call a police casualty bureau on 0800 096 0095, or from abroad on 0207 1580125.
A satellite image on the story shows that the huge cloud of black smoke is clearly visible from space.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4517962.stm
#2
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:13 am
by Ace Pace
This is not good for oil prices.
#3
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:21 am
by Narsil
This is not good for the British Environment either...
#4
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:40 pm
by Pcm979
*Crickets chirp*
How the fuck did I miss this? They heard it in France, but not in Sussex?
#5
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:05 pm
by Shark Bait
Where the hell are my marshmallows?
#6
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:10 pm
by Narsil
Shark Bait wrote:Where the hell are my marshmallows?
And the point of that was?
43 people were injured, and two of them seriously so. And now the freaking global economy, and most of the ecosystem in the south of England, is going to be freaking sent into the ground. Not that it already isn't bad.
#7
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:14 pm
by Shark Bait
true, I'm sorry I'm an idiot with a massively innapropriate sense of what is funny. I appologise and mean no dissrespect to the injured individuals and their familys.
#8
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:16 pm
by Surlethe
Shark Bait wrote:true, I'm sorry I'm an idiot with a massively innapropriate sense of what is funny. I appologise and mean no dissrespect to the injured individuals and their familys.
For what it's worth,
I thought it was funny. I think, at times, it's good to make light of serious things, like so:
Relieves stress.
EDIT: I need to qualify that it's all right, IMHO, as long as it doesn't get out of hand and supplant perspective.
#9
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:43 pm
by Narsil
I suppose I did overreact slightly, but I doubt you can make a workable joke from this one however...
Other than the obvious marshmallows one.
#10
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:29 pm
by Dark Silver
[sings]Chest nuts roasting over an open fire......[/sings]
ahem...
From a enviromental standpoint, 9 million gallons of refine fuel going up in smoke is going to play hell on the local air quality of south England....and from a oil field standpoint....
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck, you know how long it TAKES to pull 3 million gallons of fucking fuel from the ground? You know how many god damn wells we gotta drill just to get one that will produce enough crude to get that much refined fuel?
God damn it.....it's going be another busy fucking year, I see it coming....
#11
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:33 pm
by Narsil
From a enviromental standpoint, 9 million gallons of refine fuel going up in smoke is going to play hell on the local air quality of south England....and from a oil field standpoint....
Well, it may even affect the north if the wind changes
Either way, I'm pretty sure the phrase "A breath of fresh air" will become rather unused for the time being.
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck, you know how long it TAKES to pull 3 million gallons of fucking fuel from the ground? You know how many god damn wells we gotta drill just to get one that will produce enough crude to get that much refined fuel?
Not to mention the freaking effect that this will have on the local, and possibly global, economy. As I understand it, we've only got thirty years of oil left on EARTH, no more plastics, no more fuel, no more anything. At least not anything which is remotely useful in the long term...
I wonder how we'll now do with "Steam Aeroplanes" and "Steam-Driven Cars"
#12
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:51 pm
by Dark Silver
That thirty years worth of oil left on Earth thing is bupkiss. There are fields of oil we haven't even FOUND yet (I know this because most of the jobs I work in the gulf are exploratory wells which are looking for those fields).
#13
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:54 pm
by Mayabird
Dark Silver wrote:
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck, you know how long it TAKES to pull 3 million gallons of fucking fuel from the ground? You know how many god damn wells we gotta drill just to get one that will produce enough crude to get that much refined fuel?
Actually, if you notice, it's 20 times worse than that. There were 3 million gallons in each of the twenty tanks. Really, we're talking at least 60 million gallons, assuming nothing else burns/explodes.
Update on the story, from the BBC:
Fire chiefs are consulting oil industry experts about using millions of litres of foam to quell the blaze.
But Mr Wilsher said they needed to know they had enough foam before they began.
The BBC's Gavin Hewitt said about 100 firefighters were waiting to attack the blaze.
#14
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:55 pm
by Narsil
That thirty years worth of oil left on Earth thing is bupkiss. There are fields of oil we haven't even FOUND yet (I know this because most of the jobs I work in the gulf are exploratory wells which are looking for those fields).
Well, I do know that there's oilfields we haven't found yet... hell, there's species, above ground, which we haven't found yet. Thus, there's definitely oil, below it
Hell, I theorize that one of the biggest resources we'll find is possibly underneath the ocean. But until we find those fields, we're still pretty much buggered for the time being.
#15
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:40 pm
by Dark Silver
Mayabird wrote:Dark Silver wrote:
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck, you know how long it TAKES to pull 3 million gallons of fucking fuel from the ground? You know how many god damn wells we gotta drill just to get one that will produce enough crude to get that much refined fuel?
Actually, if you notice, it's 20 times worse than that. There were 3 million gallons in each of the twenty tanks. Really, we're talking at least 60 million gallons, assuming nothing else burns/explodes.
Update on the story, from the BBC:
Ahh, thanks for correcting me Maya, for some reason I only read three tanks with three million gallons per.
#16
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:31 pm
by Josh
Dakarne wrote:That thirty years worth of oil left on Earth thing is bupkiss. There are fields of oil we haven't even FOUND yet (I know this because most of the jobs I work in the gulf are exploratory wells which are looking for those fields).
Well, I do know that there's oilfields we haven't found yet... hell, there's species, above ground, which we haven't found yet. Thus, there's definitely oil, below it
Hell, I theorize that one of the biggest resources we'll find is possibly underneath the ocean. But until we find those fields, we're still pretty much buggered for the time being.
Oh, we know where a lot of it is in a general sense, it's the cost/profit ratio on reclamation that's the hangup. There are massive reserves under the Gulf of Mexico, but actually finding it and extracting it is expensive as all fuck.
We're not going to run out, ever. Even when we deplete the fields, we'll be able to create synthetics for usage in creation of plastics, etc. What we will run out of is a sufficient supply for reasonably economical usage as automotive fuel and so on. But that's a good ways down the road.
#17
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:25 pm
by Surlethe
Dark Silver wrote:God damn it.....it's going be another busy fucking year, I see it coming....
It'll be busy, but no doubt lucrative, as well.