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#1 Sweden jails circumcision father

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:42 pm
by frigidmagi
BBC
A Swedish court has jailed a Somali man for four years for forcing his 13-year-old daughter to be circumcised.

Swedish citizen Ali Elmi Hayow, 41, held his daughter down while the operation was carried out, the court said, although he denied the charges.

It is the first conviction in Sweden since the country banned the practice in 1982.

Female circumcision, common in parts of Africa, involves the partial or total removal of the external genital organs.

'Clear and coherent'

The court determined that Hayow had forced his daughter to undergo circumcision during a visit to Somalia in 2001.

"He decided that the girl should be circumcised, and together with another person kept firm hold of her while a circumciser performed the operation," prosecutor Agnate Henrikson said.

The court said the decision was based on medical examination and on the girl's testimony, which it described as "clear and coherent".

"Her version seems spontaneous and contains some details that lead the court to believe that the events really occurred," the court said.

Hayow was also convicted of travelling to Somalia with his daughter and son without consent from his ex-wife.

He was ordered he pay his daughter damages of 346,000 kronor (US$46,000; £26,000).

Cultural tradition

The case, heard at the Gothenburg district court, was the first regarding female genital mutilation (FGM), as the practice is often called, in a Scandinavian country.

The Swedish law has prohibited carrying out the procedure in Sweden since 1982, and was altered in 1999 to outlaw taking children abroad for the operation.

FGM is banned in many African countries, but is still widespread in some places.

In some communities the controversial practice is a female rite of passage and remains an important religious and cultural tradition.

It can result in infection and, in some cases, death.

Globally, an estimated 130 million women have under gone circumcision, mainly in Africa, the Middle East and some Asian countries, and some 3 million women and girls are circumcised each year, according to the World Health Organisation.
I'm glad that Sweden has done this. This is something that needs to stop.

#2

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:52 am
by Narsil
Another fucker gets what's coming to him.

Now if only they'd ban male circumcision too... I personally find myself shocked and appaled genital mutilation for both genders still goes on in the twenty-first century.

#3

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:38 am
by Stofsk
Stupid and destructive traditions diehard.

#4

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:28 pm
by Scottish Ninja
I fail, though, to become outraged at the practice of male circumcision. Though, as Dave Barry put it, it's something white males can feel they are victims of.

Glad to see this guy's been arrested, though.

#5

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:38 pm
by Elheru Aran
Scottish Ninja wrote:I fail, though, to become outraged at the practice of male circumcision. Though, as Dave Barry put it, it's something white males can feel they are victims of.
Let's put it this way: If you've had your foreskin whacked off, you've lost as much as 50, 60 percent of your penile nerve endings. For it to be worse, you'd have to lose half your dick. It's an entirely unnecessary and outmoded custom that keeps getting pushed upon parents who don't know any better.

As for the young lady-- I do hope she's all right...

#6

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:41 pm
by Scottish Ninja
Since I have no way of knowing the difference, I still fail to become outraged.

#7

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:20 pm
by SirNitram
Male circumsicion isn't as bad as female, but it's still bad. Of course, the idiotic 'dur, I too stewpid to see difference, so it not problem!!!' attitude will just get it to continue.

Let me put it like this. We'll chop off 60% of what nerves you have left in your penis without anestetic. Then you can talk. Yea? Somehow I doubt you'll consent to that test.

#8

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:24 pm
by frigidmagi
Oh for the love of pete. I didn't post this so y'all could get togather to cry about a completely different topic!

Go weep and wail elsewhere, female circumisicion is no where comparable to male circumisicion, I'm capable of a climax, that girl isn't.

#9

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:24 pm
by SirNitram
frigidmagi wrote:Oh for the love of pete. I didn't post this so y'all could get togather to cry about a completely different topic!

Go weep and wail elsewhere, female circumisicion is no where comparable to male circumisicion, I'm capable of a climax, that girl isn't.
And where the fuck did I imply differently? You can read, so read, and stop being foolish.

#10

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:26 pm
by frigidmagi
Funny I didn't see you post above anywhere Martin.

#11

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:27 pm
by SirNitram
frigidmagi wrote:Funny I didn't see you post above anywhere Martin.
Then you apparently can't read.
Male circumsicion isn't as bad as female, but it's still bad. Of course, the idiotic 'dur, I too stewpid to see difference, so it not problem!!!' attitude will just get it to continue.

Let me put it like this. We'll chop off 60% of what nerves you have left in your penis without anestetic. Then you can talk. Yea? Somehow I doubt you'll consent to that test.
Right before yours.

#12

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:28 pm
by frigidmagi
You posted while I was still typing then. Because when I hit reply Scottish ninja was still the last post.