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#1 Woman forces US Record Industry to drop file-sharing case

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:55 am
by B4UTRUST
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Dangerous precedent set
By OUT-LAW.COM
Published Thursday 3rd August 2006 09:50 GMT
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A group of US record labels agreed to drop a music piracy case in the US after the alleged file-sharer argued that it could not be proved that she downloaded any illegal music. The case may set a precedent that undermines scores of other music piracy cases.

Tammie Marson of Palm Desert, California refused to pay the initial $3,500 demanded by a group of record labels and opted to fight the case in court. Marson and her lawyer Seyamack Kouretchian of Coast Law Group argued that the fact that Marson's computer contained illegal music files downloaded over her internet connection was not proof that she had committed a crime.

The record companies – Virgin, Sony BMG, Arista, Universal and Warner Brothers – agreed to dismiss the case and pay their own legal costs.

"They don't take these cases to trial, they either settle or dismiss," Kouretchian told OUT-LAW. "It was our position that they could not ever prove that Tammie Marson downloaded this music or that Tammie Marson made it available. It was just an absolute impossibility. The best they could ever prove was somebody had used Tammie Marson's internet account to download the music or make it available. That's the best they could ever do."

Marson argued that as a cheerleader teacher she had had hundreds of girls through her house, any one of whom could have used her computer. She also used a wireless internet network, meaning that people outside of her house could have used her internet connection. "She doesn't even know what a shared folder is," said Kouretchian.

If this becomes a popular defence it could seriously hamper a huge number of file-sharing lawsuits taken in the US against individuals. It also looks to be a trend in defence against movie file-sharing law suits.

Software executive Shawn Hogan is using a similar argument in his response to a film industry case against him. He has decided to fight the case rather than pay the $2,500 demanded of him, even though it will cost him far more than that. His case is that he did not commit an offence and that the film industry cannot prove that he did.

"They're completely abusing the system. I would spend well into the millions on this [lawsuit]," he told Wired magazine.

Kouretchian said that Marson chose to take a similarly principled stand. "Copyright is my area of expertise, we weren't going to fold. They tested the waters with us to see if my client was prepared to go the distance," he said. "We weren't going to be fooled by the allegations and the threats."

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I, for one, am quite pleased with this outcome. It's about damned time those fucking ungrateful assclowns at the RIAA and MPAA get theirs. I'm just hoping that someone can figure out a good stance for a counter suit so that they can be sued in return for all these frivilous lawsuits and bullshit that they're dealing.

Those dumb mother fuckers have the ordacity to claim that "pirates" are the one and only cause of their lost profits. Not the fact that the artists suck, the songs suck, the music sucks and they're charging $20 a CD. Not the fact that all these lawsuits they're filing and court cases they're fighting are costing them billions and that this whole group of them acting together have been operating in the red for years now fighting this shit. No, it's pirates.

But this is :deadhorse:. These :sheepfucker: will get the message eventually when nobody buys their craptastic merchandise anymore.

#2

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:22 am
by Josh
The labels need to get fucked. This is another case of crony capitalism at its worst- when they can't stay competitive with their business model in the face of new developments, they resort to abusing the system to stifle competition and protect their interests.

#3

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:01 pm
by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman
Frankly, I hope more and more people will stand up against those RIAA vampires; it's time to realize that those charges are simply based on intimidation and there's no way for the record labels to win once the victim decide to stand up.

#4

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:09 pm
by Hotfoot
Not to sound defeatist, but people will continue to shell out $20 a CD so long as that is the industry standard. The fact that they've been price-gouging us and breaking anti-trust laws left and right means nothing to them, and it means about the same to the average american.

#5

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:55 pm
by Josh
Entropy will take care of them in the long run. The market is revaluating right now, and I don't think the even the legislation and the DRM will serve to keep the music industry from undergoing radical changes as time goes by.

#6

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:34 pm
by DesertFly
The RIAA has to realize they're fighting a losing battle: even if they win every case they take to court here, eventually the big pirates will just pack up and move to countries where the laws are different or where they don't like the US. The writing's on the wall for the current way of business, and the longer the RIAA tries to fight it, the worse of a position they will be to take advantage of the next big thing when it comes around.

#7

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:57 pm
by Mayabird
DesertFly wrote:The RIAA has to realize they're fighting a losing battle: even if they win every case they take to court here, eventually the big pirates will just pack up and move to countries where the laws are different or where they don't like the US. The writing's on the wall for the current way of business, and the longer the RIAA tries to fight it, the worse of a position they will be to take advantage of the next big thing when it comes around.
The big pirates are already in other countries, such as China. East/south/southeast Asia is a HUGE market, where oftentimes 90% of the media is pirated. You'd think they'd want to go after the humongous available pie there, but no. They'd rather go beat up on Johnny College Student and take his ramen money instead. Eh. They're slowly getting what's coming to them, and their flailing will probably take them down faster.

Note: This is assuming that no jackass legislation is put in place to "protect" and subsidize them.

#8

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:55 am
by Josh
Mayabird wrote:They'd rather go beat up on Johnny College Student and take his ramen money instead.
Not so much that as the chilling effect they're looking for. They want to scare a hundred Johnny College Students for every one they sue, essentially.