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#1 Attorney General babies Saudis.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:26 pm
by frigidmagi
RockyMountainNews
Colorado Attorney General John Suthers flew to Saudi Arabia this week to reassure government officials there that Homaidan Al-Turki was treated fairly when he was convicted of sexually abusing an Indonesian nanny held a virtual captive in his Aurora home.

Suthers sat knee-to-knee for an hour with King Abdullah and also met with Crown Prince Sultan, Saudi journalists and relatives of Al-Turki during his weeklong trip to the capital city of Riyadh, Deputy Attorney General Jason Dunn said Friday.

"There was a lot of public attention in Saudi Arabia on this case," Dunn said, adding that "misperceptions" there about the U.S. judicial system and Colorado in particular convinced U.S. officials that the highly unusual trip was warranted.

In June, Al-Turki was convicted in Arapahoe County of 12 counts of unlawful sexual contact with force, one count of theft of services over $15,000, false imprisonment and conspiracy. He was sentenced to 20 years to life in prison.

Al-Turki has been portrayed in the Saudi press as a victim of the U.S. judicial system's bias against Muslims. Many Saudis say Al-Turki would not have been convicted in his own country.

The Saudi government gave Al-Turki $400,000 to post bail on the charges.

During the trial, the 24-year- old victim testified that she was brought to Colorado from Saudi Arabia by the Al-Turki family in 2000 and worked and lived with them in Aurora for four years. She worked seven days a week and was paid $150 a month, but Al-Turki and his wife kept most of that money.

She also testified that Al-Turki took her passport and that he repeatedly sexually abused her.

At his sentencing, Al-Turki said he would not apologize for "things I did not do and for crimes I did not commit."

"The state has criminalized these basic Muslim behaviors," he told the judge. "Attacking traditional Muslim behaviors was the focal point of the prosecution."

Prosecutors said it was a clear case of human trafficking.

In deals with prosecutors, Al- Turki's wife, Sarah Khonaizan, pleaded guilty to reduced charges in both state and federal court earlier this summer and was to be deported.

The nanny, whose name the Rocky Mountain News is withholding because she is a sexual assault victim, now lives in Aurora.

Suthers' trip this week was sponsored by the U.S. State Department in consultation with the U.S. embassy in Saudi Arabia and Gov. Bill Owens.

While there, Suthers explained how the U.S. judicial system works and said that "in Colorado, crimes of this sort are dealt with severely," Dunn said. "He wasn't apologizing for it, but he wanted them to understand why the result of the case was what it was."

The federal government picked up the tab for Suthers to spend the week in Saudi Arabia with Owens' chief counsel, Jon Anderson, Dunn said.

A U.S. State Department spokeswoman on Friday was unable to provide the trip's cost or who paid for it.

Suthers is expected to arrive back in Denver late tonight.

Muslim practices vs. American justice

The case of a 24-year-old nanny sexually abused and virtually enslaved by a Saudi Arabian family living in Aurora has raised debate about the practices of the Muslim world vis-a-vis the American justice system.

• The authorities

State Attorney General John Suthers, traveled to Saudi Arabia to assure King Abdullah that treatment was fair.

• The convicted

Homaidan Al-Turki was sentenced to 20 years to life, and his wife, Sarah Khonaizan, is to be deported.
Man... How we just tell them no one gets to rape and enslave people under the law of this country? No expections.

Also forgot! Al Sadr must die!

#2

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:01 am
by Cynical Cat
Yes, yes, yes, I'm sure he wouldn't have convicted in Saudia Arabia. Having a country so backwards it's almost impossible to convict someone of rape isn't something to brag about. What a fucked up country.

#3

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:17 am
by Batman
Frankly if what this guy did REALLY constitutes 'traditional Muslim behaviors' Muslims have even less of a case being offended by western scorn/ridicule than they already did.
Newsflash, Middle East:
1) the Middle Ages are long over.
2) just because you've been doing it for hundreds of years doesn't make it right. Narsil used to have a very nice quote about that in his sig.

Stuff like that sometimes makes me wish we could just go Shep Solution (TM) on the area.

#4

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:40 am
by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman
The Saudis are the center of Wahhabism (the fundie Islamic movement who claims to speak for all and every Muslim), the sponsor of the Taliban, and where Osama bin Laden was originated.

And I still wonder why it was Iraq that got busted.....

#5

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:52 pm
by frigidmagi
And I still wonder why it was Iraq that got busted.....
Several reasons, one being that the royal house of Saud is really the only thing keeping that nation togather and keeping Saudi Arabia semi-passive, an invasion would make what's going on in Iraq now look like a kindergarten food fight.

Two being that it was felt that infedals occupying Mecca and Medina would be a bigger recruiter for terrorist groups then anything we could do in Iraq.

Three the Saudis haven't invaded other nations and overtly caused a mess while in power. Saddam did.

#6

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:13 am
by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman
frigidmagi wrote:Three the Saudis haven't invaded other nations and overtly caused a mess while in power. Saddam did.
And that's too bad, IMO, because Saddam's regime, for better or for worse, was based on Pan-Arabism (Nasserism?) ideology which is secular and argues for modernization, industrialization and the abolishment of traditional society. Too bad Saddam caused a lot of mess while in power.....

#7

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:43 pm
by frigidmagi
To put it bluntly Saddam's idealogy had one over reaching goal. More power to Saddam and no Iraqi ever heard of Saddam talking about getting rid of traditional society. Hell Saddam was awful quick to try and hide behind traditional Arabism in both the First Gulf War and before the invasion to try and rally support from other Arab/Islamic nations.

#8

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:14 am
by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman
frigidmagi wrote:To put it bluntly Saddam's idealogy had one over reaching goal. More power to Saddam and no Iraqi ever heard of Saddam talking about getting rid of traditional society. Hell Saddam was awful quick to try and hide behind traditional Arabism in both the First Gulf War and before the invasion to try and rally support from other Arab/Islamic nations.
Yup. Too bad that Saddam was just another opportunistic tyrant while the Ba'ath Nasserism ideology is nothing but window dressing. What Iraq (and other Arab nations) needs is a (hypothetical?) benevolent leader with sincere intentions to bring modernization and secularism to the nation, as well as getting rid of traditionalism. Anyone remember the Khadaffi thread? That guy (Khadaffi) is correct with his speech: Islamic fundamentalism is actually dangerous and harmful, particularly to the Muslims themselves --particularly those who lives in poor, underdeveloped countries. It makes underdeveloped nations stay underdeveloped and poor. Whoever came with Wahhabism on the first place deserved to be shot.