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#1 Inspector fears BNP patrol will hurt town

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:50 am
by frigidmagi
Gazette & Herald
POLICE fear a decison by the British National Party to put patrols on the streets of Calne will add to the town's problem with yobs.

The BNP claims it will have patrols working by the end of the week and they will help to stamp out problems with gangs and attacks.

But Inspector Gavin Williams of Calne Police Station said "What people don't realise is that we will have to police the patrols to make sure nothing untoward is happening.

"This will distract us from other jobs meaning we won't be able to do what we should be getting on with."

The BNP move comes two weeks after town councillor Dave Bland was injured when teenagers got out of control and just over a week after a 35-year-old man was beaten with a hammer while his girlfriend was held at gunpoint during the violent robbery at the home in The Green.

The 20-year-old female occupant of the flat was pinned to the floor by one of the men while her boyfriend was repeatedly hit around the head and arms with the hammer.

The victims, who were both injured, managed to escape and ran into the street to raise the alarm.


BNP member Robert Baggs says the success of similar patrols in Corsham means there is also hope for Calne.

He said complaints from locals about antisocial behaviour have been instrumental in organising the patrols.

Wiltshire BNP chairman Mike Howson sparked controversy last month when he set up patrols in Corsham.

Mr Howson claims the vigilante patrols were a response to concern by Corsham residents about thugs in the town.

Mr Baggs says the most recent attack illustrates the need for regular patrols.

He said: "Of course the patrols are set to combat anti-social behaviour in the town mostly but we can't let people worry about stepping out into their own street.

"The only way we can prevent things like this happening is with regular patrols on the street and as the police are not providing that service, we will.

"We tend to ask ex-service personnel to volunteer because they already have the discipline to do the job well."
I would say to the inspector that the untowards is already happening and more often then it should.

I do find myself concerned by this however, I do not know much of the BNP, I admit this freely. What I do know, however, does not give me cause to like them. Perhaps an British member would feel free to add more information?

A quick scan of the comments on the story tells me two things. One, people are glad that anyone is doing something. Two, the BNP is gaining votes from this.

I'll leave up to you to decide if that is a good thing.

#2

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:40 am
by Dartzap
Ever heard of the National Front? BNP is just the new name for them.

Pounds to Doughnuts they instigated half the bullshit that's occurring up there anyway. that's one of the reasons the BNP's leadership cadre has been in the dock more times than can be counted, but they always manage to get off scot free due to a 'lack of evidence'

I always say their mere existence is a good reason not have Proportional representation.

#3

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:30 am
by Norseman
Quite frankly I have two things to say:
1. Yes they're racists.
2. Many of the charges against their LEADERSHIP (as opposed to rank and file) have been bullshit hatecrime legislation in an attempt to shut up an annoying oppositional group.

Note that #2 doesn't change the fact that they're total douchebags.

As for them instigating half the shit, I'm not so sure about that, and from the comments I've seen a lot of people actually living in the area appreciate their actions. That of course links this closely to how other extermist groups have benefitted:

1. A problem arises due to government screw ups or negligence.
2. The problem grows worse and the government / mainstream groups refuse to address it.
3. Radical groups with dubious agendas gain more support because they address the problem.
4. The Radicals moderate their propaganda and take some concrete steps to fix the problem.
5. The government/mainstream demonize the radicals.
6. Go to 2 and repeat untill:
a) Still radical radicals gain power.
b) Moderated radicals gain power.
c) The mainstream acknowledges the problem and takes real steps to deal with it.
d) The mainstream refuse to acknowledge the problem, but takes real steps to deal with the radicals.

Tis' how it has ever been, wherever you go...

#4

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:46 am
by SirNitram
BNP? British Nationalist Party. Throw in their anti-anything-but-lily-white, and your memory should start clicking over.

#5

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:03 pm
by frigidmagi
Pounds to Doughnuts they instigated half the bullshit that's occurring up there anyway.
All things aside, if they really had that much power odds are they would be running your country already. Not attempting to defend the BNP here, I don't know enough to go either way.

#6

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:48 am
by Dartzap
frigidmagi wrote:
Pounds to Doughnuts they instigated half the bullshit that's occurring up there anyway.
All things aside, if they really had that much power odds are they would be running your country already. Not attempting to defend the BNP here, I don't know enough to go either way.
Its hard to describe the BNP, but the best example I can come up with are the various football hooligan gangs that got chucked in the slammer in the 90's. What they do is move into very deprived areas, where there are large ethnic groups, and large numbers of natives, who as you know, in areas such as this, are generally have very poor levels of education, have no job/money and are on the doll, and because they are on the doll, they tend not get off their own arse and do something. They constantly blame everyone else for their problems, especially those "fucking immigrants' or the old favourite 'those fucking pakis"

So, in an area where there is alot of economic stagnation, alot of tension occuring because of the constant bickering...a person appears, someone who claims that if they are made in charge, they will kick the immigrants out, get rid of the EU membership, give everyone jobs held by those people (since ye' know, these 'immigrants' are infact usually British born, lived here all their lives). And this...gives people ideas, they start talking about 'The Good old Day' and because this new chap, who talks the talk, walks the walk and says everything these people want to hear, they go along with whatever they say. And this leads to the issues that are occurring.

So, with this bottom-of-the barrel society, the BNP has its support - and its true, they have lots of support, and if they do put up lots of councillors in the next vote and win, its because they, like every other politician, are playing to the crowd on the so called 'issues'