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#1 Russia's Cossacks rise again

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:56 pm
by frigidmagi
BBC
In the first of a series from southern Russia, the BBC's Steven Eke reports on the Cossacks, who have emerged as an influential political group in the region, strongly supportive of Vladimir Putin and his idea of Russia's "greatness".

Local leader "Ataman" Viktor Vasilyevich
Village leaders like "Ataman" Viktor Vasilyevich are greatly respected
The Cossacks play an increasingly important role in Russia. Their disciplined way of life, patriotism, large families and commitment to work, are seen by many politicians as a model that could help resolve many of Russia's problems. For this, they receive support from the very top.

The village of Varennikovskoye is home to some 300 Cossacks and their families.

The local leader, "Ataman" Viktor Vasilyevich, received me with open arms. He was dressed in traditional Cossack costume, which includes a full-length black coat, a sheepskin hat and a sword. He oozed authority, and it was immediately clear that he was held in deep respect by his family and the other villagers.

Cossack family life is a rigid, hierarchical system in which the eldest man's word is law. Unashamedly, the Ataman explained that Cossack families should be as large as possible. He introduced me to one of his own sons, already the father of seven children.

Orthodox beliefs

One of his grandsons was boxing in the village gym - a converted bar. He said being a good Cossack was someone who "took responsibility" for his family and their well-being. Just 11 years old, he was already used to hard physical work on the farm.

Cossack family
Cossack families are large and their values simple and rigid
Cossack family values are simple, rigid, and to a Western eye, seem to come from another era. The men build the home and provide an income; the women cook, clean and give birth to children. Traditional Russian values, culture, and Orthodoxy form the bedrock of their beliefs.

Ataman Viktor asserted that the village was welcoming to people of other faiths, including Muslims. But, he warned, they would only be accepted as long as they recognised the pre-eminence of Orthodox customs and beliefs.

The alternative, he made clear, was expulsion. Two families had already been "dealt with" in this way.

Varennikovskoye had previously been a large collective farm, part of the agricultural system that Stalin imposed on the Soviet Union in the 1930s. That disastrous policy led to millions of deaths from famine and decades of food shortages.

Agricultural success

Things are very different in Russia now. Agricultural land cannot be privately owned, but it can be leased in flexible ways that put individuals and their families or companies in charge of sometimes large areas.

Orthodox Church
The construction of this Orthodox church is financed by donations
This is how the Ataman and his sons had come to work thousands of hectares of land. They have made a big success of it, with the family owning several large houses and appearing materially comfortable. Communism, they say, was an alien belief forced on Russia by foreigners. He was referring to Karl Marx.

Buying and selling, and taking responsibility for one's own welfare, they added, were an intrinsic part of their way of life.

Before we sat down to a table laden with food, Ataman Viktor recited the Lord's Prayer in Old Church Slavonic. There was no alcohol on the table, something unusual in Russia, town or country.

As I was told, a Cossack found drinking in this village would face a whipping. This was the village's exemplary way of dealing with the rampant alcoholism that blights life in much of the Russian countryside.

In another Cossack village, Zelenaya Roshcha, the local leader was overseeing the construction of an Orthodox church, financed by donations. The village also had an amateur Cossack choir, which was always delighted to perform for visitors.

In the blistering heat, they came out into the street in traditional regalia, to entertain us with Russian folk songs. They sang wonderfully.

Cossack values are deeply conservative, a mix of self-reliance, fervent patriotism and belief in discipline and authority. As I prepared to leave, Ataman Viktor told me he would like to see the Tsar return to Russia.

When I asked him if he could suggest any candidates, he told me there was "only one". President Vladimir Putin, he said, had proved himself as a potential Tsar, by bringing order and the start of Russia's long-awaited national revival.
I find myself with mixed opinions when it comes to the Cossacks. On one hand I cannot help but admire their discipline, patriotism and willingness to work hard, in all honesty their faith in God as well as their anti communism also tends to make me want to be inclined favorable to them.

On the flip side there are things they do that I cannot support, I am wary of this demand that all "recognised the pre-eminence of Orthodox customs and beliefs," makes me wary (kinda like how a jew feels wary in Saudi Arabia) and the call for a Tsar rings alarm bells. I also do not care for the strict unyeilding gender roles and authority lines (look I'll be frank, I love my father but I've made a career out of doing what he wouldn't do and I'm not about to stop anytime soon).

So yeah, on the fence here.

#2

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:48 pm
by LadyTevar
You're not the only one on the fence about this one, hon. "The women cook, clean, and give birth to babies..." Wonder how many of them are abused?

#3

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:28 pm
by Ra
Probably the vast majority. In our "modern" society spouse abuse is far too common, I expect it'd be damn near universal a society of backwards patriarchal dogmatists like this. Oh but they're "traditional", work hard, and believe in (their personal ideal of) God, that makes it all peachy. :roll:

#4

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:51 pm
by The Duchess of Zeon
Cossack women are as rough as hell, and plenty of them served in the military in past times by the thousands, even. Of course they probably consider abuse normal and just grow tough and inured to it. Victim complexes are simply not allowed in Cossack families whatsoever, nor would they be encouraged in women. I suspect if you talked to the Cossack women they'd probably find it odd that women don't get beaten and just shrug it off. Which in no sense mitigates the behaviour, but it does put it in context. Also, I suspect that violence against women in that community is very low by Russian standards, to be blunt (this is why Russian women are so desperate to find foreign husbands), because so much of it is related to rampant alcoholism. Remove the alcohol and I don't think Russia would be particularly worse than the modern USA, which is what they've done.

And Quiet Flows the Don is an excellent and beautiful example of Cossack life and the collapse of their traditions and customs which are now being revived by the Caucasian and Kuban Cossacks. The Donbass Cossacks are also fervent supporters of Russia inside the Ukraine.

There are many Cossack villages like that, but the idea of Putin proclaiming himself Tsar is most unusual. Most of them simply refuse to vote whatsoever, and instead pray daily for the return of the Romanovs as Tsars, a sentiment to which I heartily approve.

Of course, with Russia's drastically declining population there is a need for large families like this, and the position of the Saracens is a suitable one, considering they're invaders into Orthodox lands who have a history of savage terrorism in the region and such charming traits as enslavement on a large scale; including women and boys for sexual purposes. Make no mistake in assuming there are peaceful Saracens in the Caucasus. The region has a thoroughly primitive mindset, Orthodox and Moor alike, and the razzia or raid and all it entails has been firmly revived by the conflict in Chechnya and the disputes over Ossetia and Abkhazia. And of course many Cossack volunteers fight for Armenia against Azerbaijan besides, in addition to their service in the Chechnyan war where one Cossack unit was actually disbanded for excessive violence (!), a rather impressive sentiment coming out of the Russian Army, not known for its mercy or restraint.

At any rate, the idea of making Russia democratic is laughable--the culture is not suited to it, and only some westernized intellectuals in the cities desire it--and the sort of proposals of Solzhenitsyn, that Great Old Man of Russian literature and philosophy, to take an essentially medievalistv view and revive traditionalist society--are the only things which can save Russia from total demographic collapse and cultural destruction, which is currently looming in a country where there are more abortions than live births.