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#1 Norway: Debate flies over 'sex play' in kindergartens
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:35 pm
by Norseman
So says
this article in Aftenposten (a very reputable Norwegian newspaper). So what's the debate all about?
It's about whether or not children should be allowed to, or encouraged to (And I am translating directly from the Norwegian version, the English version is Bowdlerized) "Children may look at and explore each others body. They can play doctor, mother and father, ass games, fucking games, they can dance naked and masturbate."
There is some controversy about it in Norway, but I thought I'd show this to you lot, and see what you think.
#2
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:37 pm
by Lord Iames Osari
Uhhh....
I'll get back to you on this...
#3
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:09 pm
by Dark Silver
...but...their kids?
at the gae of five....they don't even know what sex is?!
I'm lost...
#4
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:38 pm
by Cynical Cat
There's a difference between not stigmatizing kids exploring/playing with their bodies and encouraging them to play sex games. This is over the line.
#5
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:00 pm
by Batman
I agree with CC. Kids definitely need to have proper sex education but not only is this overboard, but in
kindergarten?
#6
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:34 pm
by LadyTevar
To my mind, there's a Big Difference between "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" curiosity and actual SexPlay.
#7
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:47 pm
by Batman
LadyTevar wrote:To my mind, there's a Big Difference between "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" curiosity and actual SexPlay.
And I'd agree with that except for the mentioning of fucking games and masturbation.
#8
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:49 pm
by Mayabird
There's also a difference between not repressing kids and letting them go wild. We must have some sort of self-control to get along in any society, which includes not screwing each other in the streets. Discouraging that is totally different from telling kids that if they play with themselves at night they'll go blind, or that babies come from cabbage patches. (I was seriously told that as a kid. My parents were quite honest with me, and I knew even before age 3 that I came from my mama's belly. Thus, I was scared of the other kids, thinking that they were all evil vegetable people who might try to replace me, or that one of those silly dolls might come to life, or they'd turn into one of those dolls. But I digress, and fuck you, Georgia.)
Besides, I read the book. The Brave New World was not a healthy society.
EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm not saying to discourage honest sex ed. I'm saying that the kids need to learn that they can't just drop their pants anywhere they please. Pre-schoolers have enough trouble with that as it is.
#9
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:36 pm
by frigidmagi
Honest sex ed is one thing and I'm willing to accept that. Sex games are a completely different thing all together and I wouldn't want my kid while a minor to engage in that as a school activity.
This is point blank insanity for kindergartners, there's not much a kindergartner needs to know beyond men and women have differences between them and the basic mommie carried you in her tummy routine that can be expanded on in more detail when the kid is older.