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WASHINGTON - Barack Obama has some urgent making up to do among a lot of angry white women — lifetime Democrats who spurned him for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the primaries and now are threatening to stay home or even vote for Republican John McCain in November.

Amid all the talk about a first black president, many women are deeply disappointed, in some cases furious, that Clinton's own historic campaign fell short and that Obama's campaign undercut her along the way. Her loss was painful for women who have encountered sex discrimination themselves, especially older women who saw her as the best hope for electing a female president in their lifetimes.

Obama himself must heal the rift with women, said Clinton fundraiser Susie Buell of San Francisco, or a new brand of "stay-at-home moms" might sit out the election.

"I know that women are very worked up right now," she said. Obama "has never apologized for the way Hillary has been treated."

Emotions boiled over at last weekend's televised meeting of a Democratic Party rules committee, when some women chanted "McCain '08" after the Clinton team lost its bid to win more disputed delegates from Michigan.

Many party insiders believe that, over time, most Clinton supporters will decide that a reluctant vote for Obama is better than a spiteful vote for McCain. Still, polls underscore Obama's challenge.

According to exit polling at voting places, white women preferred Clinton to Obama by 24 percentage points in this year's Democratic contests, even tilting toward her in 12 of the 17 states where Obama won and polls were conducted.

And a recent Pew Research Center survey found an eight-point drop in his favorability ratings since February. The center said the slip "is in some measure a negative reaction from frustrated Clinton supporters," with 43 percent of white women expressing a positive opinion of Obama, down from 56 percent in late February.

Healing the wounds will require a strong endorsement by Clinton of the man who beat her, says Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., one of Obama's most prominent female supporters. And the reality of the presidential stakes will sink in, too, she says.

"As time passes and everyone begins focusing on the differences between John McCain and Barack Obama," she said, "I think the medicine is going to be a little easier to swallow. But right now I think it's really hard for these women."

Obama himself has been heaping praise on Clinton in recent weeks, after it became clear he had the race won. Expect that to continue.

Also, expect Obama and his camp — now expanding to include the Democratic establishment in Congress and elsewhere — to point out how much closer he is than McCain to the disappointed Clinton supporters on issues they care about most.

Crucially, Obama supports abortion rights, which McCain opposes. Obama also supports more government help for health care, home buying and college than does McCain.

Jennifer Palmieri, a press aide in Bill Clinton's administration who now works for the Center for American Progress, said she does not think Hillary Clinton lost to Obama because of sexism. "But there have often been sexist overtones to the coverage," she said, proving that "the media thinks it's OK to say sexist things" about matters such as Clinton's pantsuits and her laugh, or to "poke fun at her middle age women supporters."

Despite the hurt feelings, Palmieri said, most traditional Democrats will return to the fold by autumn.

Other Democratic activists are less sure. Buell, the Clinton fundraiser, said Democratic women have a right to be angry about efforts to push the former first lady out of the race before all the primaries were finished. And she said many women feel Obama responded insufficiently to a priest who ridiculed Clinton recently from the pulpit of his former church in Chicago.

Obama backers acknowledge he brought some problems on himself — such as saying dismissively in a January debate, "You're likable enough, Hillary" — but they also say he and his aides often held their tongues in recent weeks as the Clinton camp assailed them.

Also, the Obama campaign passed up chances for negative TV ads as the campaign wound down and the results seemed sure — even though she was still arguing she would be the stronger opponent against McCain.

Activists say Obama must work hard to win women's support now, and not expect Clinton to do it for him.

"Obama himself has to introduce himself in a way that really convinces women that they can place their trust and the security of their families in his hands," said Kate Michelman, a former head of the abortion-rights group NARAL and an early Obama backer. "And he will do that."

"I believe a woman president is not that far off," Michelman said, largely because of Clinton's impressive campaign. "Hillary has made that inevitable as far as I'm concerned."

Gloria Steinem, a pioneering feminist, disagrees. "For 35 years people have been asking me if there will be a female president, and I have always said, 'not in my lifetime,'" she said. "I still feel that way. The patterns of history are that, at the upper levels, we see different varieties of men first. The female comes later."

Steinem said disgruntled Democratic-leaning women ultimately will back Obama. Besides, she suggested, much of their ire should be aimed at the news media, not the candidates.

"The media was in love with Obama," Steinem said, "and in hate with Hillary, hands down."

LadyTevar wrote:The sad part? I also hate these 'Feminists', because they have NOTHING IN COMMON WITH 90% OF WOMEN!

B4UTRUST wrote:I hope to hell that Clinton doesn't get the VP nomination. If she does and Barack wins, I give it 6 months before he's mysteriously 'dealt with.' Hillary is honestly vicious and full-out bitch enough to probably try to kill his ass just to get her presidency which she sees still as her gods given right.

B4UTRUST wrote:I hope to hell that Clinton doesn't get the VP nomination. If she does and Barack wins, I give it 6 months before he's mysteriously 'dealt with.' Hillary is honestly vicious and full-out bitch enough to probably try to kill his ass just to get her presidency which she sees still as her gods given right.

SirNitram wrote:

B4UTRUST wrote:I hope to hell that Clinton doesn't get the VP nomination. If she does and Barack wins, I give it 6 months before he's mysteriously 'dealt with.' Hillary is honestly vicious and full-out bitch enough to probably try to kill his ass just to get her presidency which she sees still as her gods given right.

Can we drop the 'Clinton arranges hits' conspiracy theories? She's vile enough in reality to not entertain those nonsensical tirades.

FickityTwists wrote:

B4UTRUST wrote:I hope to hell that Clinton doesn't get the VP nomination. If she does and Barack wins, I give it 6 months before he's mysteriously 'dealt with.' Hillary is honestly vicious and full-out bitch enough to probably try to kill his ass just to get her presidency which she sees still as her gods given right.

I would like to see John Edwards get the VP spot. He is still better than Hilary by a long shot.

Charon wrote:

FickityTwists wrote:

B4UTRUST wrote:I hope to hell that Clinton doesn't get the VP nomination. If she does and Barack wins, I give it 6 months before he's mysteriously 'dealt with.' Hillary is honestly vicious and full-out bitch enough to probably try to kill his ass just to get her presidency which she sees still as her gods given right.

I would like to see John Edwards get the VP spot. He is still better than Hilary by a long shot.

Won't happen. Edwards has no interest in being VP and I think he could do us more good by being the Attorney General, as has been hinted at a few times.

Also, I agree with Nitram. Clinton may be a bitch who thinks she deserves the nomination but she is not going to order a hit on Obama nor is she going to be anything other than helpful to Obama's attempts at winning the white house even if she isn't VP. She's not stupid people, and she figured out weeks ago that she wasn't going to win, she was staying in for her consituates and to keep her support among them strong. Don't believe me? Look at how sharply her attacks on Obama dropped off after the Indiana/North Carolina beating she took.

FickityTwists wrote:She won by a small margin here in Indiana. NC is where she took a bigger loss.

She would be a very poor VP IMHO. Yes, her views overlap that of Obamas as I have stated before. Yet, it is her vile willingness to do vile things that made her politics less important and her drama career step up.

Her intellect for debates is sorely lacking and I would find her to be a liability as the VP on a candidates ticket.
I know some of you will disagree, but her debates were poorly structured and she kept playing her dependancy on her husbands career as a good thing. It was her husband that would of taken the flack if any of her politics had failed, not her.

Mayabird wrote:What is this "rift" they speak of? Because I'm totally not feeling it. Same as I'm not seeing this massive anti-Hillary conspiracy to hold down the womenfolks that they seem to be claiming.

Steinem said disgruntled Democratic-leaning women ultimately will back Obama. Besides, she suggested, much of their ire should be aimed at the news media, not the candidates.

"The media was in love with Obama," Steinem said, "and in hate with Hillary, hands down."