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#1 After two years, New Hampshire allows Venezluan oil.

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:31 pm
by SirNitram
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CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Two years ago, New Hampshire refused to accept heating oil from Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, the pro-Castro U.S. critic who once called President Bush "the devil." But with fuel prices rising, well, free oil is free oil.

With the state's blessing, New Hampshire residents will be receiving some of the fuel this winter.

New Hampshire becomes the last state in the Northeast to embrace the offer.

"A lot of people have said, `We need help and we value any help we can get,'" said Amy Ignatius, director of New Hampshire's office of energy and planning.

The oil giveaway will be managed by Citizens Energy, a nonprofit organization set up by former Massachusetts Rep. Joseph Kennedy to help the poor stay warm. But the state energy office plans to help Citizens publicize the aid and sign up fuel-oil dealers.

It is just the latest example of how rising oil prices have brought about an attitude adjustment in the U.S. Over the past few weeks, pressure has been growing in Washington and around the country to lift the federal ban on offshore drilling.

Back in 2006, when Chavez began offering free oil to Americans from Venezuela's government-controlled Citgo, New Hampshire's energy office contacted the Venezuelan Embassy about working out a deal.

But the idea galled some New Hampshire Republicans, including Sen. John Sununu, who called the it a "disgrace" and an attempt at grandstanding by Chavez, and Democratic Gov. John Lynch squelched the effort.

This year, though, "the state's role is to make sure people are aware of the program," Lynch spokesman Colin Manning said.

A lot has changed over the past two years. Back then, heating oil sold for about $2.50 per gallon in the Northeast. Last month, the average price was $4.61, with predictions of $5 per gallon oil by winter.

"The average tank is 250 to 275 gallons," Citizens spokeswoman Ashley Durmer said. "Filling it once is over $1,500. That is unfathomable that anyone can pay that price. If you have to fill the tank four times, it's going to be a devastating winter for a lot of people."

On Thursday, Sununu again criticized Chavez but said he has no problem with people or businesses accepting help from an independent nonprofit such as Citizens.

Sununu and other lawmakers around the Northeast are pressing for big increases in federal home heating aid. More than 6 million New England households rely on oil heat.

Bob Garside, president of the Oil Heat Council of New Hampshire, a trade group, predicted many of the state's 200 dealers will refuse to participate in the heating-oil giveaway. "In the past, it's been nothing but a ploy for Chavez," Garside said.

Bill Fuller, general manager of Fred Fuller Oil Co., disagreed. He began delivering fuel for Citizens last winter, when hundreds of New Hampshire residents who applied on their own, without state involvement, got 100 gallons free. Fuller said he plans to do it again.

"It's actually a pretty good program," he said. "We get a voucher. We fax it in and get money right away."

#2

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:33 pm
by Mayabird
Why are we burning oil for heating instead of switching the houses over to something else? Surely that'd be cheaper in the long run (heck, probably the short run too) and there'd be plenty of political maneuvering that could be done by the smart and savvy.

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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:36 pm
by SirNitram
Mayabird wrote:Why are we burning oil for heating instead of switching the houses over to something else? Surely that'd be cheaper in the long run (heck, probably the short run too) and there'd be plenty of political maneuvering that could be done by the smart and savvy.
Okay, tear out the heating system in your house and rebuild it.

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That's the reason. Conversion tends towards being expensive. That said, most homes can be heated by small geothermal units, I've heard, since you aren't generating megawatts.

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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:25 pm
by Jason_Firewalker
I am a real fan of the wood chip heaters, my parents house in Bar Harbor has a medium sized one and it heats darn near all of the house for $75 a week

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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:36 am
by Cpl Kendall
SirNitram wrote:
Okay, tear out the heating system in your house and rebuild it.

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That's the reason. Conversion tends towards being expensive. That said, most homes can be heated by small geothermal units, I've heard, since you aren't generating megawatts.
I assume you refer to heat pumps. I'm not sure what they go for in the US but up here in the frozen wastes they can go for 10-25K (installed) depending on your Province.

In comparison, you can get a new NG furnace for around 5K.

That said, when we buy a house. A heat pump is going in, simply because I hate the local gas company and the less I spend on heating the more I have available for transporting myself and family around.