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#1 Border Agents claim they were given arrest quotas.

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:24 pm
by SirNitram
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[quote]SANTA ANA, Calif. (AP) — Border Patrol agents working about 100 miles north of the Mexican border say they have been given arrest quotas at odds with agency practices and threatened with punishment if they failed to meet the number.

Agents stationed in Riverside reported being ordered to make at least 150 arrests of suspected illegal immigrants in January, two of which must lead to prosecutions, said Lombardo Amaya, president of Local 2554 of the National Border Patrol Council.

“They were told if you don’t produce this, we will have to change your weekends off,â€

#2

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:59 pm
by General Havoc
I don't know what the ICE is, but I do know that the INS is an organization of nearly pure evil, which gets away with the shit it does only because American Citizens never have to deal with it.

#3

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:02 pm
by SirNitram
General Havoc wrote:I don't know what the ICE is, but I do know that the INS is an organization of nearly pure evil, which gets away with the shit it does only because American Citizens never have to deal with it.
Basically, ICE is the new Enforcer INS. A result of the Homeland Security post seizing it for their own turf.

#4

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:03 pm
by frigidmagi
INS is gone man. Was replaced by ICE.

#5

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:07 pm
by General Havoc
Well then baring evidence to the contrary, I shall transfer my sentiment above from the INS to the ICE

#6

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:15 pm
by Cynical Cat
General Havoc wrote:Well then baring evidence to the contrary, I shall transfer my sentiment above from the INS to the ICE
From everything I've heard, they've just gotten worse since the change.

#7

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:16 pm
by SirNitram
Ten second 'official' description of ICE:

Largest investigatory arm of HomelandSecurity, responsible for identifying, investigating, and dismantling vulnerabilities regarding the nation's border, economic, transportation, and infrastructure security.

The 'mission' is to protect the US by intercepting money and people going to terrorism or criminal activities through the boarder. They have some of the broadest powers of any investigative branch. Bureaucrats have repeatedly overruled doctors in detention centres, even to the point of someone getting cancer and slowly dying from it, never being transferred to a proper facility.

Oh yes. All those stories since 2001 that involve naturalized or american born citizens being deported, along with legal immigrants? ICE.

#8

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:26 pm
by General Havoc
I tend to prefer to analyze large government agencies in a little more objective light, but if the INS was any indication, none of that stuff is a surprise to me.

#9

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:31 pm
by SirNitram
General Havoc wrote:I tend to prefer to analyze large government agencies in a little more objective light, but if the INS was any indication, none of that stuff is a surprise to me.
Anecdote ahead: Use caution.

My experiences with the INS were consistantly better than ICE, even under Ashcroft. ICE increased wait times considerably, both in lines at the office, re-issuance of green cards, and other trivially simple matters. But this is to be expected: INS was explicitly about naturalization of immigrants. ICE is explicitly about enforcement of laws. 400 Statutes, IIRC.