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#1 New RNC leader, Steele, and signs of what's next.

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:52 pm
by SirNitram
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Less editorializing, more quoting the video:
Cavuto: ... What retribution will you exact?

Steele: Look, my retribution is the retribution of the voters in their states. They're going to have to go through a primary in which they're going to have to explain to those Republican voters in that primary their vote.

Cavuto: I know that, but will you as RNC head recommend no RNC funds being provided to help them?

Steele: That is something I will talk to the state parties about and I will follow their lead.

Cavuto: So in other words, are you open to that, Michael?

Steele: Oh yeah, I'm always open to everything, baby, absolutely.

Cavuto: So -- by being open to that baby, does that mean you would consider punishing them for that vote?

Steele: My responsibility is to follow the lead of the state parties, to get their advice, what their intent is. Those senators are going to have to account to those voters there.
Similarly, a radio show had this:
GALLAGHER: Is this a time when Republicans ought to consider some sort of alternative to redefining marriage and maybe in the road, down the road to civil unions. Do you favor civil unions?

STEELE: No, no no. What would we do that for? What are you, crazy? No. Why would we backslide on a core, founding value of this country? I mean this isn’t something that you just kind of like, “Oh well, today I feel, you know, loosey-goosey on marriage.â€

#2

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:52 pm
by frigidmagi
I did say they were radicalizing.

#3

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:52 pm
by General Havoc
As did I.

#4

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:12 pm
by frigidmagi
Also "loosey goosey"? Dude I haven't heard that one since my grandmother died. What the fuck man?

#5

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:24 pm
by SirNitram
frigidmagi wrote:Also "loosey goosey"? Dude I haven't heard that one since my grandmother died. What the fuck man?
Steele is goofy. I had previously assumed under his goofy, he might actually intend to not shove head in sand and regress to the extreme. No, he's just extremist and goofy.

#6

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:11 pm
by General Havoc
Well in fairness to Steele, National party chairmen tend to be insane for some reason. Howard Dean is hardly the epitome of reason after all.

But yeah, this is just about what I expected... *sigh*

#7

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:15 pm
by frigidmagi
In Howie's defense, he's an utterly effective bastard and he was right as opposed to his fore runners and the Clintons.

I'm not sure Steele is gonna be all that effective. He's still miles away from where the Republicians need to go. He needs to ditch the anti-gay crap and kill off the Objectives (Ayn Rand lovers) so that they can develop a concerent and effective right wing platform. Or they could just borrow mine that would be cool to.

#8

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:59 pm
by General Havoc
I hate to come out sounding like a Marxist, but Steele is a necessary transitional step for the Republicans. It won't be for a bit that they can turn around and fix themselves, and he is the party until they do.

#9

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:01 pm
by SirNitram
General Havoc wrote:I hate to come out sounding like a Marxist, but Steele is a necessary transitional step for the Republicans. It won't be for a bit that they can turn around and fix themselves, and he is the party until they do.
I don't really see how that's terribly Marxist; the Dialetic hardly is the only thing to say that extremists will get more extremist as they get isolated.

#10

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:49 pm
by Derek Thunder
It's really more of a Pokemon theory of government.

"I was handily defeated by my rival and his stronger hope-type Pokemon. I must train harder until my Pokemon are a high-enough level to defeat my rival!"

Just don't mention the whole evolution thing.

Also, I'm sorry, but when the head of a party promises an "off-the-hook" marketing strategy, it's a sort of craziness that hasn't been found in politics for quite some time, at least outside of fringe movements like the winter 2007 R[love]ution.

#11

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:51 pm
by frigidmagi
at least outside of fringe movements like the winter 2007 R[love]ution.
I don't think I've heard of that one?

#12

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:53 pm
by Derek Thunder
I was referring to the idiosyncratic logo of the Ron Paul campaign and its principle base of college-age objectivists.

#13

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:02 pm
by frigidmagi
Ah, got ya.