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#1 Meet Daniel Barenboim musical genius, Jew & 'anti-semite

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:58 am
by The Grim Squeaker
Chicago Sun-Times wrote:Barenboim ripped as 'anti-Semite'

September 3, 2005

BY RAVI NESSMAN
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JERUSALEM -- Israel's education minister on Friday denounced Chicago Symphony Orchestra music director Daniel Barenboim as a ''real anti-Semite'' after the conductor refused to grant an interview to an Israel Army Radio reporter.

The Jewish conductor was approached Thursday by reporter Dafna Arad during a promotional event for a book he wrote with the late Palestinian intellectual Edward Said. He declined because she was wearing a military uniform.

Barenboim's snub outraged Education Minister Limor Livnat, who denounced the conductor as ''a real Jew-hater, a real anti-Semite.''

Barenboim, who was born in Argentina and raised in Israel, has had frequent spats with Israel's government. Last year, he angered officials when he criticized the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza as he accepted the prestigious Wolf Prize in a speech to Israel's parliament.

Last month, Barenboim brought his West-Eastern Divan Orchestra, comprised of musicians from Israel, the Palestinian territories and neighboring Arab countries, to the West Bank city of Ramallah for a concert in memory of Said.

On Thursday, Arad tried to interview Barenboim at the book launch in a hotel in the Jewish neighborhood of Yemin Moshe in western Jerusalem. Arad was wearing her uniform, as is the custom for Army Radio reporters still serving their mandatory military service.

''I wanted to interview Barenboim very much and to ask him about the concert he conducted in Ramallah last week, about his musical vision and more. But he wouldn't agree to talk to me, and started signing the book. I insisted. Then he said he refused to be interviewed by a soldier in a uniform and that he will agree to talk to me only if I come to him in civilian clothes,'' Arad said on Army Radio.

She said when she protested that she had no choice but to wear the uniform, Barenboim pulled on her epaulets and yelled at her.

Arad did not play tape of Barenboim's snub, but the conductor, in a telephone interview with Army Radio on Friday, did not deny the incident and defended his actions.

''Anti-Semitic? What is anti-Semitic about it? When I say that a uniform should be worn to the right places and not to the wrong ones, there is nothing anti-Semitic about it, there is no logic to this claim,'' Barenboim said.

''I just thought that in this place, discussing a book written together with a Palestinian, it shows lack of sensitivity.''

Yuval Steinitz, chairman of parliament's Defense and Foreign Affairs Committee, accused Barenboim of being ungrateful, saying Israel ''exists thanks to those who wear uniforms.''

In 2001, Barenboim angered some Israelis by breaking an informal ban in Israel on performing the works of Richard Wagner, Hitler's favorite composer.

Barenboim also is general music director of the Berlin Staatskapelle Orchestra.

Fuck that bitch, I simply feel like screaming at those idiots who treat anything not going their way as a new holocaust.
From the evacuated settlers who put on orange stars and called the IDF soldiers "Nazis", to this- Is there no limit?

If this continues whos to say that in 20 years someone wont say about the holocaust that it was just an exxageration with the jews being taken out of their houses, because of those fucktards with no limits. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

If this continues the words Holocaust, nazi star will lose their importance because of the fucking Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

#2

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:58 am
by The Grim Squeaker
Sorry for the ranting.:oops: (I still stand my every word I said though)

Since visiting Poland and the camps people demeaning the horror of the holocaust (the settlers, the fact that "Nazi" is becoming a common curseword without extreme impact) has me steaming, the settlers was just something that was the second to last straw and this just broke my back.
Then he said he refused to be interviewed by a soldier in a uniform and that he will agree to talk to me only if I come to him in civilian clothes,'' Arad said on Army Radio.
She said when she protested that she had no choice but to wear the uniform, Barenboim pulled on her epaulets and yelled at her.
She really didn't have a choice on the uniform, he was being a dick about that, army regulations are'nt voluntary. (This still doesnt excuse her phrases)

#3

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:01 am
by Ace Pace
I agree, Limor Livnat, bitch that she is, is showing the world WHY no one cares about the holocaust, its getting thrown down our ears like every other term, ridding it of any significence, the term WW1 causes more interest in people then an organised genocide attempt, and thats the crime, not someone acting like a git.

#4

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:14 am
by Josh
From such abuse was Godwin's Law invented.

The Civil Rights movement did the same with slavery- what was a real atrocity becomes a piece of rhetoric to be bandied about for political advantage.

#5

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:24 am
by Lord Stormbringer
Sadly, these people probably don't get it. They're so insanely irrational that the truth never occurs to them. They probably really believe it really is that bad. I don't think it's a coincidence that one of the standard responses to Israeli policy is accusations of anti-semitism.
Petrosjko wrote:The Civil Rights movement did the same with slavery- what was a real atrocity becomes a piece of rhetoric to be bandied about for political advantage.
Which not coincidentally was also marked the death of a real civil rights movement and began the "extort money from whitey movement." People like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have turned real suffering into a triviality and a dollar sign.

#6

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:12 am
by Josh
History is rife with examples of various institutions created to represent for the people, as it were, who eventually turn into thug groups. The Mafia, Yakuza, and unions all started that way.