China claims Pentagon report 'ignores objective truth,'

N&P: Discussion of news headlines and politics.

Moderator: frigidmagi

Post Reply
User avatar
frigidmagi
Dragon Death-Marine General
Posts: 14757
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:03 am
19
Location: Alone and unafraid

#1 China claims Pentagon report 'ignores objective truth,'

Post by frigidmagi »

Christian Science Monitor

[quote]Beijing reacted angrily Wednesday to a Pentagon report expressing worries about China’s burgeoning military capabilities, calling such concerns baseless.

“The report ignores the objective truth and accuses China for its normal national defense and army constructionâ€
"it takes two sides to end a war but only one to start one. And those who do not have swords may still die upon them." Tolken
User avatar
Stofsk
Secret Agent Man
Posts: 1710
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:46 pm
19
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

#2

Post by Stofsk »

Didn't you win the last Asian Naval experience? :lol:
User avatar
frigidmagi
Dragon Death-Marine General
Posts: 14757
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:03 am
19
Location: Alone and unafraid

#3

Post by frigidmagi »

How many men and ships did it cost us?
"it takes two sides to end a war but only one to start one. And those who do not have swords may still die upon them." Tolken
User avatar
Stofsk
Secret Agent Man
Posts: 1710
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:46 pm
19
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

#4

Post by Stofsk »

frigidmagi wrote:How many men and ships did it cost us?
Quite a lot, I don't deny that. Although I doubt you'd lose if another such naval experience came up in Asia. I also doubt China wants to get into a slugging match with the Pacific Fleet.
User avatar
The Minx
Pleasure Kitten
Posts: 1581
Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:29 pm
17

#5

Post by The Minx »

The two countries are too economically dependent on each other to seriously consider such a move anyway. It's all just a matter of prestige. :smile:
Librium Arcana resident ⑨-ball
User avatar
Cynical Cat
Arch-Magician
Posts: 11930
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:53 pm
19
Location: Ice Sarcophagus outside a ruined Jedi Temple
Contact:

#6

Post by Cynical Cat »

The Minx wrote:The two countries are too economically dependent on each other to seriously consider such a move anyway. It's all just a matter of prestige. :smile:
While I tend to agree, Great Britain and Germany were each others largest trading partners right before World War I.
It's not that I'm unforgiving, it's that most of the people who wrong me are unrepentant assholes.
User avatar
frigidmagi
Dragon Death-Marine General
Posts: 14757
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:03 am
19
Location: Alone and unafraid

#7

Post by frigidmagi »

So were Japan and the United States before WWII.
"it takes two sides to end a war but only one to start one. And those who do not have swords may still die upon them." Tolken
User avatar
The Minx
Pleasure Kitten
Posts: 1581
Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:29 pm
17

#8

Post by The Minx »

Granted, people can be very irrational. I'd hope that interdependence makes people less likely to be irrational, though. :???:

How much are they adding to their fleet anyway?
Librium Arcana resident ⑨-ball
User avatar
frigidmagi
Dragon Death-Marine General
Posts: 14757
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:03 am
19
Location: Alone and unafraid

#9

Post by frigidmagi »

Not enough to fight WWIII. It's hard to say really because China treats all of this as top secret and doesn't share. We know that for example, whether they admit it or not, they're building at least one Air Craft Carrier and expanding their troop lift (they can currently transport by sea less then a division, which means they couldn't even take Taiwan). Also we're very sure they're expanding the sub force and their sea borne missile technology and platforms.

The thought being that they may decide that instead of trying to match us Carrier for Carrier, which is an open question of whether they could anyways, instead they'll try to use missile ships to make the Carriers big expensive targets.

To be honest the odds of a Chinese/American war are rather low, but their cutting of military ties does increase them a bit. I can understand the Chinese point of view, however I don't agree with it.
"it takes two sides to end a war but only one to start one. And those who do not have swords may still die upon them." Tolken
Post Reply