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Okay, this thread is intended to be a year by year discussion on what events are most likey to occur, how and why. It begins in November 1937 with British Facist taking power, forcing Chamberlinn to resign and creating their own pro-German government. Churchill goes to Canada, quietly.

In January 1938, this government enters the anti-Comintern Pact (the pre-Axis alliance) and suspends all elections within the UK, citing a plot by communist forces to launch a coup. At this point Churchill forms a government in exile in Ottawa, Canada. This Government in exile is fully formed and functioning by early March, Churchill calls on all Commonwealth members and colonies to refuse any orders from London.

Canada refuses calls from London to send back Churchill for trail on the charge of high treason.

It is now Mid-March 1938, what are the reactions of US and British Commonwealth members and colonies? How does this change the plans of Hitler? What will France do? Will Spain join the Axis? Does this change the plans of Imperiall Japan? What is the reaction of the USSR?

Please keep the disucssion in the 1938-1939 period, I will provide a chance to move forward in time to later years when I feel the discussion as reached that point.

The conflict on the Eastern front may have started earlier than 1941 if England cited that as a reason, they'd probably even push for it.

Without England resisting, and in fact helping the German Wermacht, I'd think Europe would fall even faster. Spain would probably end up siding entirely with Germany in order to save itself from destruction. With less to worry about on the Western Front, they'd probably focus on Russia that much faster. Without the British bases of operation in Europe, establishing a foothold becomes extremely difficult.

The United States involvement would then likely have to rely on supplying the Russians with key supplies, or simply building themselves up.

This change in focus might cause concern for the Japanese, but I don't know if it would up the timetable for Pearl Harbor. Probably not, but it's possible for a ripple effect.

Canada would clearly stay allied to the United States if they refuse to give up Churchhill. Australia would potentially follow suit.

Teaming up with the IRA for covert operations inside the Islands may be an option to either topple the regime or provide critical intelligence. Otherwise, UK Espionage and Counterespionage is going to be a very tough nut to crack.

Without the Benchley Park operation, breaking the German Enigma system is going to be much more difficult, in fact it may get worse if the same minds that helped to crack it actually fixed the flaws in the system's designs. The ability for the Polish Resistance to get their previous work to the allies gets that much harder, especially if the British Navy is keeping them from getting it to America or Russia.

In short, this is a bad situation, even without looking at the additional military forces being added to the German War Machine.

Quick Note, General Franco of Spain was a facist or at least very pro-facist in his leaning. The reason he didn't join the Axis powers was the fact that Spain had just finished a rather messy civil war between his own side backed by Nazi Germany and a communist backed faction. He felt that it was against the best interest of his nation to throw in on foreign adventers until he had cleaned up the mess at home.

This worked out to his advantage, given as was able to avoid fighting the UK and US in our timeline. But in the new one with a UK joining Germany?

-Edit My mistake, the civil war was fought up til 1939 in our timeline, so the question in 1938 becomes, would the UK send troops to Spain like Germany and Italy did?-

As I understand it, he did lend troops to the German War effort against Russia, but was otherwise content to stay out of the conflict.

The biggest question may be how does London react to Canada politly telling to go fuck itself with a barbed wire wrapped cricket bat?

I have a hard time buying a Fascist Britain not causing a resistance movement. It'd have alot of support from Canada and Austrailia(Not to mention America), and probably rile the Irish up too.

The big one modified?

All wanking aside, will it really change much on the Eastern front?

Ace read the op. We're in 1938-1939, there is no eastern front as of yet. You'll get the chance to discuss what the lack of UK/US supplies to the USSR mean and the lack of a German Western front when we get to the right time frame, right now discuss the immedate reactions of the UK turning facist.