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#1 Training standards in Equilibrium

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:46 pm
by frigidmagi
As I sit here watching it, something occurs to me. It does not look like the enforcers (the trenchcoated, rifle bearing grunts working for the Clerics) are really all that well trained. I see several mistakes as it is. Not taking cover in a gunfight, lack of covering fire during an advance, standing around in a fucking circle when trying to kill someone you just saw wipe the floor with the rest of your unit! You know... Little things.

Combine this with the fact that the poor rebels out in the waste aren't excaltly trained, harden killers either...

So the clerics can murder rabble in job lots and poorly trained grunts?

How would they do against well trained, combat troops?

#2

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:56 pm
by Hotfoot
You know, it's sad, but I could have seen some of the lamer things in Ultraviolet coming in Equilibrium, particularly the one scene that you mentioned with the grunts surrounding Preston. I wish I had a way to explain it, but I suspect that Libria wanted the loyal clerics at the top of the food chain, since the grunts could potentially go rogue easier.

As to how well they'd do against a modern Military? Not well, I'd suspect. The lack of strong emotions can help (no terror) but it can also hurt (self-preservation acts may come harder).

#3

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:09 am
by Comrade Tortoise
Hotfoot wrote:You know, it's sad, but I could have seen some of the lamer things in Ultraviolet coming in Equilibrium, particularly the one scene that you mentioned with the grunts surrounding Preston. I wish I had a way to explain it, but I suspect that Libria wanted the loyal clerics at the top of the food chain, since the grunts could potentially go rogue easier.

As to how well they'd do against a modern Military? Not well, I'd suspect. The lack of strong emotions can help (no terror) but it can also hurt (self-preservation acts may come harder).
That and the strong bonds between individuals formed in a military unit make it work better

#4

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:03 am
by Mayabird
It looked like those art connaisseur rebels were getting chewed up at the beginning of the movie, but then at the end all of a sudden they're going "YEEHAW!" and taking down the grunts with ease. Eh.

#5

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:22 am
by Charon
Mayabird wrote:It looked like those art connaisseur rebels were getting chewed up at the beginning of the movie, but then at the end all of a sudden they're going "YEEHAW!" and taking down the grunts with ease. Eh.
That was the weakest part of the movie. Throughout the entire movie we see the rebels getting blown away without the grunts taking even a single casualty. Then all the sudden, at the end, BAM rebels are taking down grunts like they've got a shotgun in a room full of chickens.