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#1 Michael Bay's TMNT's to feature a white shredder

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:45 am
by frigidmagi
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f you weren’t already annoyed enough with the Jonathan Liebesman-directed, Michael Bay-produced Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, you will be now. It’s been confirmed a white actor will play the role of Shredder.

It’s not the first time it’s happened in Hollywood, particularly with important Asian characters, and I’m sure it won’t be the last. Actor William Fichtner, previously in an unknown role in TMNT, has revealed he’s playing Shredder. He spoke to HuffPost TV Canada:

I play Shredder. It is cool. It’s one of those things that came along where I thought, “Really? Let me think about this for a minute.” [Laughs] Then I was like, “Yeah, OK, this sounds like a journey.” I’m very glad that it worked out, I’m really glad that I’m doing it.

Perhaps Fichtner should have thought about taking the job for more than just a minute and considered it might not sound all that great to say he’s playing a classically Asian character. It’s a shame really, I love Fichtner’s work, I think he’s a fantastic actor and while some might say, “Isn’t that all that matters?” in an acting gig, I’d have to answer, “No, representation matters.”

Add this to Alan Ritchson, Jeremy Howard, Pete Ploszek, and Noel Fisher, four white men playing the Ninja Turtles, as well as Danny Woodburn as Splinter and Megan Fox as April, and you’ve got a resoundingly one-note cast as far as race is concerned. Although just recently we were praising the film for adding Whoopi Goldberg in what appears to be not only a racebent, but a genderswap role as well.

What are your thoughts on a white Shredder?
Here's my issue. We have a character who leads a Japanese organization. He was canonly born and raised in Japan with a Japanese name. Why is a ninja clan leader from Japan now a white guy? Why is it so hard to find a fucking Asian actor to play the guy from Japan? He doesn't have to be Japanese! Just East Asian!

I'm not entirely against changing the race of a character, as long it can make sense with their backstory. To use a TMNT character, Dr. Stockman has been shown as both white and black. Either race works with his backstory. In minor characters (April's coworkers for example) you can change race and gender because well bluntly it's not very important. There are some characters for which race is an important element in their backstory. Magneto needs to stay a white dude for his origin to work (granted you can change the origin and we may need to someday). Black Panther needs to stay black. You make Superman a Russian and everything changes. So on and so forth.

I gotta say I'm glad the Turtles aren't fucking aliens anymore, but this with Megan Fox (my objection is frankly... She's not that good of an actress and all I've seen from her is TnA eyecandy acting. I'd like a bit more for April O'Neal) as April O'Neal only feeds into my dark suspisions and frankly I doubt I'll be watching this movie.

Some of you may scream "But Frigid! It's Ninja Turtles!" My response is gonna be "If we care about this, we should stop rewarding people for making shitty products that ignore the fundamentals of the characters and story and just slap on a brand name."

#2 Re: Michael Bay's TMNT's to feature a white shredder

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:31 pm
by Batman
Technically he could be born and raised in Japan and still be a white guy. Yes I know there's no way they're actually going with that, but it is theoretically possible. :razz:

#3 Re: Michael Bay's TMNT's to feature a white shredder

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:03 pm
by Dark Silver
Quiet Frankly, I've settled in that Micheal Bay is meant to destroy everything good from my Childhood - much like current politicians have destroyed my hope in the political system.

#4 Re: Michael Bay's TMNT's to feature a white shredder

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:02 pm
by Batman
Good. Better yours than mine.

#5 Re: Michael Bay's TMNT's to feature a white shredder

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:41 am
by Josh
Dark Silver wrote:Quiet Frankly, I've settled in that Micheal Bay is meant to destroy everything good from my Childhood - much like current politicians have destroyed my hope in the political system.
Remember that guy you cut off in traffic that one time? Yeah, that guy. He wrote down your license plate number and had his staff cyberstalk you for years to find out all that you treasured. Then he systematically took projects concerning each one.

Moral of the story? Michael Bay is a petty dick.

(I know you're reading this, Bay. COME AT ME, BRO! I HAVE NO LOVE IN MY BITTER HOLLOW EXISTENCE!)