Hey guys!
I am saddened that we were unable to game this week, but with our omnipresent authority figure assailed by microscopic adversaries (CL 20!) it is to be expected. I can announce however, that after much time wasting and considering I have finished what will eventually become the PC ride of choice. I give you the finalized stats for the "Foregone Conclusion" class.
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"Foregone Conclusion" Class Corvette (Prototype)
Colossal (Frigate) Capital Ship
Initiative:
Senses: Perception
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Defense: Reflex 18 (flat footed 13) Fort 61; +13 armor, Vehicular Combat
hp 840; DR 20; SR 140; Threshold 150
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Speed: fly 7 squares (starship scale)
Ranged Quad Light Turbolaser Battery +19 (see below)
Ranged Quad Heavy Ion Cannon Battery +11 (see below)
Ranged Quad Medium Ion Cannons +11 (see below)
Ranged Light Concussion Missile Launcher +9 (see below)
Ranged Gravity Well +9 (see below)
Fighting Space 1 (starship scale); Cover total
Base Atk +7; Grp +72
Atk Options auto fire (quad medium ion cannons)
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Abilities Str 112, Dex 20, Con --, Int 24
Skills Initiative , Mechanics , Perception , Pilot , Use Computer
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Crew: 85 (skilled); Passengers 100
Cargo 100 tons; Consumables 1 year; Carried Craft 24 Huge Fighters and 3 Gunships or Space Transports
Payload 96 Light Concussion Missiles
Hyperdrive x.5 (Backup x8)
Availability ---------- Cost: 6,300,000 credits
Quad Light Turbolaser Battery (6 gunners)
Atk +19 (-1 vs targets smaller than colossal), Dmg 5d10x5
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Quad Heavy Ion Cannon Battery (2 gunners)
Atk +11 (-9 vs targets smaller than colossal), Dmg 5d10x5
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Point Defense Quad Medium Ion Cannons x2 (2 gunners)
Atk +11 (+6 autofire), Dmg 7d10x2
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Light Concussion Missile Launcher x2 (2 gunners)
Atk +9 Dmg 7d10x2
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Gravity Well Generator (1 gunner)
Atk +9 Dmg Special
Crew
1. Captain
1. Executive Officer
1. Pilot
1. Co-Pilot
1. System Operator
5. Player Characters (Team Awesome)
13. Gunners
1. Chief Engineer
14. Engineers
10. Security Personnel
5. Cooks
8. Other Crew
24. Fighter Pilots
Emplacements
1. Hyperdrive Class 1
2. Navicomputer
3. Sublight Drive Speed 4
4. Shields, SR 125
5. Advanced Slave Circuits
6. Armor +1
7. Regenerating Shields
8. Hangar Bay x2
9. Hypertransceiver
10. Medical Suite x1
11. Smuggler's Compartments x2
12. Hyperdrive Class 8
13. Workshop
14. Sensor Enhancement Package
15. Anti-Boarding Systems
16. Luxury Upgrade - Advanced
17. Sensor Array Computer +4
18. Communication Jammer
19. Backup Battery
20. Sensor Decoy
21. Cargo Improvement x2
22. Reinforced Bulkheads +10%
Weapons
Quad Light Turbolaser Battery (6 gunners) 5d10X5
Quad Heavy Ion Cannon Battery (2 gunners) 5d10x5
Quad Medium Ion Cannon Point Defense Array (2 gunner) 7d10x2
Light Concussion Missile Launcher (2 gunners) 7d10x2
Gravity Well Generator (1 gunner) Special
Modifications
Level 3 Shield Rating
Level 3 Hull Rating
Level 3 Emplacements
Level 2 Hyperdrive Rating (class .5)
Tech Specialist Improved Speed
Prototype: +1 movement, +1 movement (advantage), -50% cargo (disadvantage):
900 tons of cargo converted to Emplacements
Crew increased by 50% (25 crew) 8 times to 225 crew
Passengers Lowered from 200 to 50% (100 passengers) capacity
Removed 30% of escape pods due to 30% reduction in crew and passengers
Total
Total Emplacements Used: 98
Total Cost (without fighters or droids): 6,300,000 credits (this is equivalent to two and half Marauder Class Corvettes)
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#177
That's just nauseating. I want one.
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#178
It might actually be worth toning down the fighter complement and putting in something like shuttles?
Though I noticed that the space requirements are for 24 gargantuan sized fighters - I take it that's the X-wing size, where a TIE fighter is on the next lower scale?
Though I noticed that the space requirements are for 24 gargantuan sized fighters - I take it that's the X-wing size, where a TIE fighter is on the next lower scale?
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#180
Shuttles can be used for SAR, AWACS (or Space-WACS rather), and depending on whether or not the ship can land on a planet, it might also be used for cargo or personnel ferrying. Might even outfit them with missiles and make them a missile boat in addition to all of the above.
EDIT- kind of like having Vipers and Raptors, to use a Battlestar analogy.
EDIT- kind of like having Vipers and Raptors, to use a Battlestar analogy.
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#181
The current setup that the Foregone Conclusion will be following is an 8:1 split between interceptors (Vaelences, AKA, cheap mass produced Vampires) and colossal size ships. Once we have outgrown the Citadel, it will be modified to be the boarding ship/troop transport. At that point, I will design a gunship for myself and one other to suit our specific needs at the time.
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#182
I'm unsure why we need more than one class of fighter? I like the idea of specialising my squadron to be Vampire pilots.
Unless you intend on having more than one squadron on the Forgone Conclusion.
Unless you intend on having more than one squadron on the Forgone Conclusion.
#184
I don't intend on mass producing Vampires. As Hotfoot already touched upon, they are bloody expensive. The Vampire will be a PC only vehicle that Erik may be persuaded to sell to friendly aces. The Vaelence, will be the de facto fighter of choice for NPC's in the Foregone Conclusion.Stofsk wrote:I'm unsure why we need more than one class of fighter? I like the idea of specialising my squadron to be Vampire pilots.
Unless you intend on having more than one squadron on the Forgone Conclusion.
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#186
You know, the dream of a single Venator packed full of 630 Vampires is enough to give me happy, happy daydreams.
I want one now.
I want one now.
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Personal goal: Invest in the Zaar Investiture as soon as possible for returns.Hotfoot wrote:I hope you have 2.6 billion credits
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#189 Vampire Stats and Vaelence Stats
"Vampire" Class Interceptor (Prototype)
Huge Starfighter
Initiative:
Senses: Perception
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Defense: Reflex 20 (flat footed 11) Fort 25; +3 armor, Vehicular Combat
hp 150; DR 10; SR 30; Threshold 33
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Speed: Fly 18 squares (max velocity 1,650 km/h), fly 8 squares (starship scale)
Ranged Enhanced Quad Heavy Laser Cannon + 8 (see below)
Ranged Proton Torpedo Launchers +6 (see below)
Ranged Light Concussion Missile Launcher +6 (see below)
Ranged Jammer
Fighting Space 4x4 or 1 square (starship scale); Cover total
Base Atk +4; Grp +26
Atk Options autofire (laser cannons, fire-link torpedoes)
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Abilities Str 40, Dex 28, Con --, Int 18
Skills Initiative , Mechanics , Perception , Pilot , Use Computer
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Crew: 1 pilot plus astromech droid (skilled); Passengers 0
Cargo 25kg; Consumables 1 week; Carried Craft None
Payload 18 proton torpedos, 12 light concussion missiles
Hyperdrive x.5, 10-jump memory (astromech droid)
Availability ---------- Cost: 450,000
Enhanced Quad Heavy Laser Cannons (pilot)
Atk +9 (+4 autofire), Dmg 9d10x2
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Proton Torpedo Launcher x2 (pilot)
Atk +6 (-14 vs targets smaller than colossal), Dmg 6d10x5
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Light Concussion Missile Launcher (pilot)
Atk +6, Dmg 7d10x2
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"Valence" Class Interceptor
Huge Starfighter
Initiative:
Senses: Perception
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Defense: Reflex 19 (flat footed 11) Fort 24; +3 armor, Vehicular Combat
hp 100; DR 10; SR 20; Threshold 33
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Speed: Fly 16 squares (max velocity 1,325 km/h), fly 6 squares (starship scale)
Ranged Quad Heavy Laser Cannon + 5 (see below)
Ranged Proton Torpedo Launchers +5 (see below)
Ranged Hard Point System +5 (see below)
Ranged Jammer
Fighting Space 4x4 or 1 square (starship scale); Cover total
Base Atk +3; Grp +25
Atk Options autofire (laser cannon)
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Abilities Str 38, Dex 26, Con --, Int 16
Skills Initiative , Mechanics , Perception , Pilot , Use Computer
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Crew: 1 pilot plus astromech droid (skilled); Passengers 0
Cargo 25kg; Consumables 1 week; Carried Craft None
Payload 8 proton torpedos, assorted hard point loadout.
Hyperdrive x1, 10-jump memory (astromech droid)
Availability ---------- Cost: 225,000 credits
Quad Heavy Laser Cannons (pilot)
Atk +5 (+0 autofire), Dmg 7d10X2
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Proton Torpedo Launcher (pilot)
Atk +5 (-15 vs targets smaller than colossal), Dmg 6d10x5
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Hardpoint System
Atk +5, Dmg Varies
Up to 4x of the following: light concussion missiles, medium concussion missiles, proton torpedoes, space mines, advanced space mines.
or
Up to 2x of the following: heavy concussion missiles, heavy space mines.
Huge Starfighter
Initiative:
Senses: Perception
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Defense: Reflex 20 (flat footed 11) Fort 25; +3 armor, Vehicular Combat
hp 150; DR 10; SR 30; Threshold 33
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Speed: Fly 18 squares (max velocity 1,650 km/h), fly 8 squares (starship scale)
Ranged Enhanced Quad Heavy Laser Cannon + 8 (see below)
Ranged Proton Torpedo Launchers +6 (see below)
Ranged Light Concussion Missile Launcher +6 (see below)
Ranged Jammer
Fighting Space 4x4 or 1 square (starship scale); Cover total
Base Atk +4; Grp +26
Atk Options autofire (laser cannons, fire-link torpedoes)
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Abilities Str 40, Dex 28, Con --, Int 18
Skills Initiative , Mechanics , Perception , Pilot , Use Computer
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Crew: 1 pilot plus astromech droid (skilled); Passengers 0
Cargo 25kg; Consumables 1 week; Carried Craft None
Payload 18 proton torpedos, 12 light concussion missiles
Hyperdrive x.5, 10-jump memory (astromech droid)
Availability ---------- Cost: 450,000
Enhanced Quad Heavy Laser Cannons (pilot)
Atk +9 (+4 autofire), Dmg 9d10x2
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Proton Torpedo Launcher x2 (pilot)
Atk +6 (-14 vs targets smaller than colossal), Dmg 6d10x5
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Light Concussion Missile Launcher (pilot)
Atk +6, Dmg 7d10x2
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"Valence" Class Interceptor
Huge Starfighter
Initiative:
Senses: Perception
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Defense: Reflex 19 (flat footed 11) Fort 24; +3 armor, Vehicular Combat
hp 100; DR 10; SR 20; Threshold 33
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Speed: Fly 16 squares (max velocity 1,325 km/h), fly 6 squares (starship scale)
Ranged Quad Heavy Laser Cannon + 5 (see below)
Ranged Proton Torpedo Launchers +5 (see below)
Ranged Hard Point System +5 (see below)
Ranged Jammer
Fighting Space 4x4 or 1 square (starship scale); Cover total
Base Atk +3; Grp +25
Atk Options autofire (laser cannon)
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Abilities Str 38, Dex 26, Con --, Int 16
Skills Initiative , Mechanics , Perception , Pilot , Use Computer
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Crew: 1 pilot plus astromech droid (skilled); Passengers 0
Cargo 25kg; Consumables 1 week; Carried Craft None
Payload 8 proton torpedos, assorted hard point loadout.
Hyperdrive x1, 10-jump memory (astromech droid)
Availability ---------- Cost: 225,000 credits
Quad Heavy Laser Cannons (pilot)
Atk +5 (+0 autofire), Dmg 7d10X2
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Proton Torpedo Launcher (pilot)
Atk +5 (-15 vs targets smaller than colossal), Dmg 6d10x5
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Hardpoint System
Atk +5, Dmg Varies
Up to 4x of the following: light concussion missiles, medium concussion missiles, proton torpedoes, space mines, advanced space mines.
or
Up to 2x of the following: heavy concussion missiles, heavy space mines.
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#190
Holy shit, the Vampire is scarier than I remember it. That's a whole lot of "Fuck You" for just a Huge starfighter.
The Valence ain't bad as a regular ship, but...shit, the Vampire just makes it look like ass.
The Valence ain't bad as a regular ship, but...shit, the Vampire just makes it look like ass.
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#191
I like the Vampire, I think it's a pimped out ride, I just can't believe the price.
I like the idea of having a squadron of aces flying it though. But the cost would be obscene. The valence on the other hand is good, but could have some more survivability (increase HP for example) added. I like how you can arrange for specific load outs in the hard points.
I like the idea of having a squadron of aces flying it though. But the cost would be obscene. The valence on the other hand is good, but could have some more survivability (increase HP for example) added. I like how you can arrange for specific load outs in the hard points.
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#192
Indeed. I could see a compromise of a Venator-full of Valences, with Vampires sprinkled in as ace pilot ships or elite squadrons, and many people developing hemorrhoids at the prospect of facing them in combat.
That thought makes me happy.
That thought makes me happy.
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#193
The Vampire is indeed very scary. Frankly, it is as far as you can take a fighter since the Vampire has every starship designer trick maxed out. You can't go further than the Vampire without breaking some rules. It is also why its so bloody expensive. Its worth two Tie Defenders. o.OWindswept wrote:Holy shit, the Vampire is scarier than I remember it. That's a whole lot of "Fuck You" for just a Huge starfighter.
The Valence ain't bad as a regular ship, but...shit, the Vampire just makes it look like ass.
The Valence is the sweet spot in terms of capability and cost. It is a very flexible design that is superior to its base (A-Wing) without being crazy on price (175,000 for the A-Wing vs 225,000 for the Valence)
I am glad that you like the Vampire. It was built for you and Kel in mind, and your first one will be free! ^_~Stofsk wrote: I like the Vampire, I think it's a pimped out ride, I just can't believe the price.
I like the idea of having a squadron of aces flying it though. But the cost would be obscene. The valence on the other hand is good, but could have some more survivability (increase HP for example) added. I like how you can arrange for specific load outs in the hard points.
Compared to the Vampire, the Valence does seem to come up wanting but its a game of numbers. The current Valence does the "job" without spiraling out of control in terms of cost. I could add more HP and more shields, maybe tweak it here and there but at that point it would be cracking 300 thousand and it would be less compelling that it is now against the Vampire. One of the main thrusts of the Valence is that Zaar Industries (*wink*) will be trying to sell the rights to manufacture to an alliance friendly corporation (probably the same corp that makes the B-Wing). As a result, the cost has to be as low as possible so it is attractive to potential NPC buyers. The Valence is a niche product thanks to its price tag (in the fluff, the empire did not like buying TIE Defenders because they were 200,000 each compared to the super cheap TIE Fighter.) but it should still manage to get some market share from certain organizations within the alliance that need a fast, versatile and relatively tough fighter (100 hp ain't bad for an interceptor).
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#196
No worries man, we'll pick the game back up when all is well.
In the meantime, console yourself with the idea of a custom-kitted Venator holding 630 Vampires in her hangar bay.
"That's a lovely star system you have there. It'd be a terrible, crying shame if something were to...happen to it. This is why we happily sell insurance to our valued customers. Think of it as the 'Please for the love of all that's holy don't destroy my solar system' insurance."
In the meantime, console yourself with the idea of a custom-kitted Venator holding 630 Vampires in her hangar bay.
"That's a lovely star system you have there. It'd be a terrible, crying shame if something were to...happen to it. This is why we happily sell insurance to our valued customers. Think of it as the 'Please for the love of all that's holy don't destroy my solar system' insurance."
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#197
Get well soon Hotfoot.Hotfoot wrote:Do not count on a game this week
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"A dog doesn’t need to show his teeth as long as his growl’s deep enough, his food bowl is full and he knows where all the bones are buried." - Frank Underwood
#198
By the way, thanks to the United States now being stupid as hell, Daylight Savings Time and all that nonsense, as of this post it is 7:15 PM my time.
Basically, all clocks went forward an hour, and thus the scheduling of the game changes with them. It may or may not matter this week, but we'll see.
Basically, all clocks went forward an hour, and thus the scheduling of the game changes with them. It may or may not matter this week, but we'll see.
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#199
Here's finger's crossed. Kel wants to shoot people.
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#200
Game will probably be set for Wednesday, in order to help me recover just a little bit more and get some paperwork done.
I need everyone to be very clear on their destinies, what the end goal is, and what the various rewards are. The next several sessions may rely on this data.
I need everyone to be very clear on their destinies, what the end goal is, and what the various rewards are. The next several sessions may rely on this data.