General Havoc wrote:You know, it occurs to me that maybe the reason comics are so fucked up at the moment is because they're trying to pitch their product on the intellectual level evidenced by replies like these.
That's not what I said, and you know that's not what I said, and because you had nothing to say in regards to it, you decided to be a sarcastic ass and lie about what I said for a cheap shot. You want to talk about comics, fine. You want to spit at anyone who suggests what the core problem is, you can do it by yourself. I hope DC comics never changes, and that you read the same hackery for the next fifty years, wondering all the while why nobody ever fixed your comics for you.
Yes, because I commonly engage in lying. Look man, you're the one making the claim that us discussing this stuff here is utterly pointless ("won't have the slightest effect" to use your words precisely), and that because things are already in motion there's no point in talking about them.
Well fuck you, you don't get to tell me what I am and am not allowed to talk about, and when you say things like that, the implied position is that you want me and everyone else to shut up about it because you don't want to hear it. It's a thread. You didn't need to walk into the room here and chip in your two cents if you didn't want to have the conversation. It's not like I barged into your house and held you down to talk about the subject. You're not a better person for implying that you're better off for not being bothered by it, so if those are the things you are adding to the conversation, I am going to get a bit annoyed, yes. The people who do care about it either lurking on the boards or otherwise talking about it will take this new information and pass it on to their circles of friends and so on and so forth and either some of them will stand up and make some noise if it's something they would have cared about, or they'll stop buying or just, you know, not go back to buying comics. And maybe, just maybe, if the buzzing noise of angry fans and customers gets loud enough, something will change in DC headquarters, because money talks, and a lot of people are voting with their wallets, and ultimately even DiDio and Lee have bosses they have to answer to.
My opinions, my thoughts, they are not irrelevant. It's not true on the grand level of if DC makes better sales or not because of the effect of the Internet with regards to word of mouth (which matters in this business, since most of the fan base is very tech savvy and that fact has done serious harm to the industry already), and it's absolutely not true on the personal level, which is absolutely what's implied by your prior statements, even if you didn't intend for it.
As far as DC goes, you're probably right that the structure extends far beyond DiDio and Lee, but DiDio's constantly unprofessional actions and boneheaded decisions have rightly made him the source for a large amount of derision, and while getting rid of him may not solve DC's problems, it's a start and would show that DC's higher ups are listening and want to, you know, make money again. Because that can be done, it absolutely can, even in this digital age. Fuck, you've seen it a thousand times with Webcomics. Virtually no cost to start up, and can keep the creators fed and happy during their runs, and able to tell stories well above the quality in many modern comics.
