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#1 All Golden Dawn MPs could lose Greece immunity

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Greek investigating judges have asked for nine more MPs in the far-right Golden Dawn party to have their parliamentary immunity lifted to allow criminal charges to be laid.

If parliament backs the request, all 18 of the party's MPs would be accused of running a criminal organisation.

Nine are already facing charges and party leader Nikolaos Michaloliakos is one of six in jail pending trial.

Their arrests followed the killing of an anti-fascist musician.

The Golden Dawn MPs reacted angrily to news of the judges' request, Greek newspaper Kathimerini reported.

The judges also said additional charges should be laid against six of those already facing prosecution, including the party leader. Greek news agency ANA-MPA said the charges involved possession of firearms and ammunition with the aim to supply a criminal organisation.

A crackdown on the far-right party's activities began after musician Pavlos Fyssas, 34, was murdered last September. A party supporter was charged with voluntary manslaughter.

State funding for the party was withdrawn the following month.

Golden Dawn, seen by many as neo-Nazis, won 7% of the vote in the 2012 Greek elections and took up 18 seats in parliament.

The party denies being a neo-Nazi movement although its logo resembles the swastika.
On the one hand, I worry about suppressing a political stance simply because it is noxious and unpopular. Additionally is the remarkly small worry I have that this could become a way for estblishment political parties to simply refuse to address the concerns of their citizens they find inconvient. Simply by outlawing anyone who does. I think the odds of that are slim though so I'm not gonna let it be a motivating factor in my thought process.

On the other hand, being a political party should not and must not become a shield or an excuse to engate in illegal and depraved action. Simply because you have a political agenda is not an excuse to engage in street violence, crime and murder. It has long been charged that a democracy is incapable of protecting itself against totalitarian movements that run for office. Here we see the protection, because bluntly almost every totalitarian movement I've read about, Lenin's, Hitler's, the various South American and African movements and more, cannot resist showing their contempt for the rule of law and it only the unwillingness of a government to enforce those laws on the popular and powerful that renders themvulnerable . There also lies a lesson. That said I am sure there is an exception that proves the rule, but it's not in greece.

And finally on the gripping hand. Fuck the damn Nazis!
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#2 Re: All Golden Dawn MPs could lose Greece immunity

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It is a tricky business to navigate, but any legislative body has to be able to take action against members thereof who have committed or are committing crimes. It's a fundamental portion of civil oversight, and yeah fascists do tend to ignore the law when it suits them and hide behind it otherwise (not a uniquely fascist thing, though.)

Also I thought I was the only one who was geeky enough to do the 'on the gripping hand' thing.
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