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#1 Protest over Danish Cartoons, envoys met.

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Muslims have staged fresh protests in the row over cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad, as Denmark - where the row started - made a new bid to calm anger.
Danish PM Anders Fogh Rasmussen called in Muslim ambassadors to explain his position over the images' publication.

He said he could never apologise for a newspaper's actions but said he was "distressed" at offence caused.

The cartoons, some of which depict the Prophet as a terrorist, have angered Muslims who regard them as blasphemous.

However, more European papers have printed the cartoons, citing free speech.

Jakarta protest

Mr Rasmussen met ambassadors in Copenhagen on Friday - something he had refused to do when the matter arose after the cartoons first appeared in September.

Afterwards he said: "Neither the Danish government nor the Danish nation as such can be held responsible for drawings published in a Danish newspaper.

CARTOON ROW

30 Sept: Danish paper publishes cartoons
20 Oct: Muslim ambassadors complain to Danish PM
10 Jan: Norwegian publication reprints cartoons
26 Jan: Saudi Arabia recalls its ambassador
30 Jan: Gunmen raid EU's Gaza office demanding apology
31 Jan: Danish paper apologises
1 Feb: Papers in France, Germany, Italy and Spain reprint cartoons


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"A Danish government can never apologise on behalf of a free and independent newspaper. This is basically a dispute between some Muslims and a newspaper."

He has said the issue has gone beyond Denmark to become a clash between Western free speech and Islamic taboos.

Fresh Muslim protests flared on Friday in a number of countries over the cartoons, one of which shows the Prophet wearing a headdress shaped like a bomb.

Another shows him saying that paradise is running short of virgins for suicide bombers.

Islamic tradition bans depictions of the Prophet or Allah.

In the Indonesian capital, Jakarta, dozens of protesters from the Islamic Defenders' Front forced their way into a high-rise building housing the Danish embassy.

Demonstrators were prevented from reaching the embassy itself, on the 25th floor.

The incident happened after an Indonesian newspaper posted the cartoons on its website. It was later forced to take them down.

There were other protests in Iraq, Egypt and the Turkish cities of Diyarbakir, Konya and Istanbul.

However, other European newspapers have now printed the cartoons.

French daily Liberation and Belgian paper De Standaard published them, along with the Irish Daily Star, which called Muslim protests "entirely unwarranted and hateful".

In other developments:


Iraq's top Shia Muslim cleric Ayatollah Ali Sistani condemned the publication, but said militant Islamists were partly to blame for distorting the image of Islam

Palestinians protested in Ramallah on the West Bank, shouting: "The assault on the Prophet is an assault on Islam"

Afghan President Hamid Karzai called for Muslims to be forgiving, saying the cartoons should not cause a dispute between cultures

The Pakistani upper house of parliament unanimously passed a resolution condemning the cartoons

French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy said the Muslim protests were "unacceptable" but also criticises the cartoons

Vatican cardinal Achille Silvestrini condemned the cartoons, saying Western culture had to know its limits.
I'm gonna be blunt. I figure y'all have come to kinda expect from me. Fuck the assholes who think they can demand special treatment. If they want to boycott Danish products, fine knock yourself out. But I am not on your side in this. You are attempting to force your beliefs and lifesytle on the Danes. Go fuck yourself. It's bad when the republicians attempt to do it, it's bad when the Democrats attempt to do it, it's bad when the Pope attemts to do it, it's bad when you attempt to do it. Understood?

I would like to request that if you can, Buy Danish Goods.
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Would if I could. Denmark is the old country, after all.

Fucking petulant children.
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"Hey, let's boycott a whole country because one private company did something that pissed us off! That'll show 'em!"
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Will it help if I eat a lot of danishes over the next month or so? They're pretty good....
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Ladies and Gentlemen thanks to the efforts of Cyanical Cat a partial list of Danish products for sale in North America has been located they are has follows:

Danish Havarti cheese

Carlsberg and Tuborg Beers.

Arla owns White Clover Dairy, a Wisconsin company so buy that brand. It comes under White Clover and Holland Farm.

Danish Crown hams ( DAK (sold at Sam clubs)... baby back ribs, because they come from Denmark.

You shop online at The Danish Foodshop and Danish Deli Foods.

You can also buy gorgious Danish porcelain and LEGO for the kids.

Has well as Danish Butter Cookies.

I'm pretty sure most of us could use more beer if nothing else.
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Fucking fundies. They are all the same, all worthless wastes of flesh. Freedom of speech is such a foregin concept to these morons and they refuse to learn.

I personally find the concept of simple words or pictures to be 'offensive' is absurd in itself, but even if I did, I wouldn't even say anything about it, much less go nuts and assualt a whole country.

They also seem to fail to understand that here in the present, govenments don't control every little publication. Freedom of the Press is a nice thing, but oh noes someone might offend them!

I fucking hate religion. Islam, Christianity, whatever. All religion is fundamentally repulsive, and bullshit like this proves it.

The West had better stand its ground. We have made too many concessions by even apologizing. That paper did nothing wrong, and if the fundies don't like it, they can go fuck themselves. :finger:
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Wow... Way to paint with one hell of a wide brush there hoss. Just like the terrorist do. Before you start screaming that I've insulted you, you just judged billions of fellow human beings, for having the gall to believe in something you don't, just like a certain set of fellows. Maybe that's not what you meant, maybe you got a little excited, it happens, but that's what you did.

Despite being called fundamentally repulsive, I'm not going to start a fight here, but I am going to ask you to leave your issues with other people's beliefs at the door. Or make your own thread from which to wage your Crusade.

You have every right to feel any damn way you please, but I have every right to ask you to take it to your own thread and not turn mine into some athiestism vs religion freak sideshow. I'm not allowing this thread to get sidetracked in pointless flaming.
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Agreed with not messing up your thread. I'll drop it here.
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Thank you.
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30 Sept: Danish paper publishes cartoons
20 Oct: Muslim ambassadors complain to Danish PM
10 Jan: Norwegian publication reprints cartoons
26 Jan: Saudi Arabia recalls its ambassador
30 Jan: Gunmen raid EU's Gaza office demanding apology
31 Jan: Danish paper apologises
1 Feb: Papers in France, Germany, Italy and Spain reprint cartoons.
You know the irony of the whole situation is that the cartoons wouldn't have gained so much popularity if the Moslems stay calm. :wink:


Jakarta protest
Actually the protest in Jakarta is not that big. Or maybe we have been so used to protests and riots that the protest was almost unnoticed. I had a lunch with my date around Mega Kuningan area (Danish Embassy in Jakarta), and except of some greater traffic jam and some yelling folks, everything was relatively normal.

Yup, there were some fisticuffs between the protesters and the police, but it was nothing compared to the Semanggi incident on 1999, for instance.
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Update.

Timesonline

[quote]TWELVE Danish cartoonists whose pictures sparked such outcry have gone into hiding under round-the-clock protection, fearing for their lives.



The cartoonists, many of whom had reservations about the pictures, have been shocked by how the affair has escalated into a global “clash of civilisationsâ€Â
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