TGOD OOC Thread.

[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

In other words, this is bad. Anyway, if you get the One Ring, then Galadriel should get back Nenya, the Ring of Adamant, right?

I wonder how it would affect the plot:

(1) When would Galadriel hear the news about Middle-Earth assimilation? Would it distrupt their investigation on Coruscant?

(2) Would the Borg returning as benevolent like they were (the Borg was part of the Axis), or they will become evil due to Sauron influence? And what the Borg will do when they notice that the Axis and Allies have been dissolved, and now there's the New Alliance trying to stop the clash of the titans?

(3) Is there any connection with Sauron's domination on Middle-Earth with the Ancient Guardians? Some more ancient legends?

[Robert Walper]

In other words, this is bad. Anyway, if you get the One Ring, then Galadriel should get back Nenya, the Ring of Adamant, right?

I wonder how it would affect the plot:

(1) When would Galadriel hear the news about Middle-Earth assimilation? Would it distrupt their investigation on Coruscant?

(2) Would the Borg returning as benevolent like they were (the Borg was part of the Axis), or they will become evil due to Sauron influence? And what the Borg will do when they notice that the Axis and Allies have been dissolved, and now there's the New Alliance trying to stop the clash of the titans?

(3) Is there any connection with Sauron's domination on Middle-Earth with the Ancient Guardians? Some more ancient legends?

Good questions for me to mull over there, KAN. I'll brainstorm ideas in my free time. :)

One idea I had was that the Middle Earth planet would have a huge source of Orcs (millions, perhaps even billions), which would be enormously useful in fighting the Pheonix. They could be assimilated into drones technologically, but they literally have no "life force"...hence the Pheonix cannot feed upon them. Furthermore, their inhuman nature coupled with the power of the Ring makes them extremely resistant to the Ancient's song, virtually to the point where's it's entirely ineffective.

One drawback though is Lord Walper cannot milk them for Force power either. Although if he gets the idea in his head of acquiring the Ring...who knows what could happen?

[Ra]

(1) When would Galadriel hear the news about Middle-Earth assimilation? Would it distrupt their investigation on Coruscant?

She wouldn't need to. She would sense the power of the rings returning, and know something big was up.

(2) Would the Borg returning as benevolent like they were (the Borg was part of the Axis), or they will become evil due to Sauron influence? And what the Borg will do when they notice that the Axis and Allies have been dissolved, and now there's the New Alliance trying to stop the clash of the titans?

Dunno, but Sauron was pure evil.

(3) Is there any connection with Sauron's domination on Middle-Earth with the Ancient Guardians? Some more ancient legends?

My only Middle-Earth connection was that the Guardians originated as Maiar. My reasoning for that: The Silmarillion mentions that there were lots of Maiar, most of which were unnamed, or didn't even bother with the Children of Illuvatar.
- Ra

[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

Good questions for me to mull over there, KAN. I'll brainstorm ideas in my free time. :)

One idea I had was that the Middle Earth planet would have a huge source of Orcs (millions, perhaps even billions), which would be enormously useful in fighting the Pheonix. They could be assimilated into drones technologically, but they literally have no "life force"...hence the Pheonix cannot feed upon them.

I like it. Darth Kreshna would go frustrated in a battle involving them because he cannot satisfy his thirst over the battle.

But I guess you better check with Ra; is that true they don't have life-force? I ain't pretty familiar with Tolkien's :P

Furthermore, their inhuman nature coupled with the power of the Ring makes them extremely resistant to the Ancient's song, virtually to the point where's it's entirely ineffective.

I would attribute the resistance due to the lack of life-force. Remember, all those things between the Guardians and the Phoenix is over a thing called "sentient life force". ;)

However, certain Trolls also have immunity against the Guardian's song, due to their calmness of being a silicon-based nature. I hope we still remember that the Guardians is supposed to be powerful, though. Probably we should downplay the immunity part? Remember, the Guardians are the Lovecraftian Old Ones! :P

One drawback though is Lord Walper cannot milk them for Force power either. Although if he gets the idea in his head of acquiring the Ring...who knows what could happen?

But Lord Walper can still milk the Force from the Collective.... It'll be useful for your duel against Lord Adam. One is a Borg/Sith combo, another is a powerful Wizard.

I have an idea though; later, after the A'Millians realizes the Guardian's manipulation through Khardem (but it's still much later; now they're still having a battle against the Empire), everyone would join in the New Alliance and forming an "army of light" of such.

However, the supernatural power of the Alliance leaders/heroes are still no match for either the Phoenix or the Guardians, so how about joining the power and chanelling it into one person (Lord Walper?) to fight Darth Kreshna?

Imagine this:

Lord Walper is staggering as he blocks Darth Kreshna's lightsaber; it feels like resisting a Tsunami. Kreshna laughs with the insanity of the power he bears.

Far away from the duel, Galadriel and the others are covered with sweat as they are channeling their power into the Borg Lord.

"Keep concentrating," Galadriel warns the others, "Ra's team needs more time to recover the artifact!" She and Lord Adam and Lord Detritus are holding hands together in a circle, but the pressure is too strong. Far away in space, several Borg cubes start to explode as they cannot hold the strain anymore.



However, there must be a particular reason to fight. Probably in discovering more secrets? Or destroying certain artifacts? Doing something that can weaken either the Phoenix or the Guardians? Ah, but there's still a time to think about it. Meanwhile, Ra and friends are still busy discovering a horrible conspiracy at Coruscant, while an A'millian colony is being attacked by the Empire.

EDIT: or probably something like Babylon Five. Remember when Sheridan and Dellen told the First Ones (Shadows and Vorlons) to get the fuck out and stay away from the Younger Races?



A huge armada of the Ancient Guardians and the Galactic Empire are facing each other, ready for the final showdown that would bring total destruction to the universe.

"Stop this madness!" Ra speaks telepathically, "innocent lives would be perished. Our lives."

CLANG! Lord Walper blocks Darth Kreshna's attack, try to stand against the immense pressure from the madness that is the Phoenix.

Galadriel sends his telepathic persuassion to both sides as well; it is not easy to do so as they are channeling their power to the Borg Lord, "there is nothing wrong with sentience. Live is beautiful. We have nothing malevolent to be destroyed."

BZZZTTT!! Lord Walper's Lightsaber strike meets thin air as Darth Kreshna avoids with blinding speed.

"Our live is rightfully ours," Lord Detritus continues, "what are you doing is wrong. The Palpatine deceived you, tricked you two to annihilate each other for his own devilish purpose."

SCRAPE! Darth Kreshna's Lightsaber makes a burning scratch on Lord Walper's torso. The Borg Lord sommersaults backwards, then regerate his wound as fast as possible. A Borg Cube starts to explode with the strain.

"This is all madness," Lord Adam continues, "you will not only annihilate all sentience but yourself. Both of you! You both shall loose, and Palpatine shall win!"

WHACK! Lord Walper's Lightsaber cuts Darth Kreshna's left arm. To his surprise and horror, the wound spills *fire* instead of blood, but the stranger thing is the arm does not fall to the floor; instead, it quickly re-attachs itself.

The party is strained. They must end this war now or the whole universe would be destroyed.

The universe from which its ashes, Palpatine would raise as a a god.




(alright, you can eliminate the Batman and Robin sound effects)

[Ra]

That "sensation" Galadriel feels is the return of power to her ring. Since Sauron hasn't shown up yet, she'll make some use of it after the Temple mission (she's got it in her hotel room for some reason).
- Ra

[KAN Likes Having JarJar]

The cops are coming, while Ra still need time to dig up and interpret the information. Be resourceful! Remember Flotsam is wanted by the police.

Later, when Ra and his party escapes, they will be chased by an agent wearing sunglasses..... ;)

[Ra]

Orzh'ii District.

He... he... hehehe!

OK, I'll stop now.
- Ra

[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

Orzh'ii District.

He... he... hehehe!

Is that some kind of Red Light District?

[Dartzap]

Say it out loud, good grief

Orzh'ii


=

Orgy!

[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

Say it out loud, good grief

Orzh'ii


=

Orgy!

But what an android would do in an orgy? Do androids masturbate on electric sheep? ;)

[Ra]

Ugh. It's got nothing to do with the android, but the population.
- Ra

EDIT:

while Destructionator XIII are busy watching the porn he downloaded from The Jedi Palace's database (sorry, can't resist! :P)

It had better be Aayla Seclura pr0n.

[Ra]

Anyway, about my last post. A retcon wasn't necessary. See, last Ra saw of Flotsam, he was fighting Smith. The team got back to the Drocc Hotel without him, so they had no idea what had happened to him.

They would have caught up with him at the redezvous in the Orzh'ii District.
- Ra

[Robert Walper]

Good questions for me to mull over there, KAN. I'll brainstorm ideas in my free time. :)

One idea I had was that the Middle Earth planet would have a huge source of Orcs (millions, perhaps even billions), which would be enormously useful in fighting the Pheonix. They could be assimilated into drones technologically, but they literally have no "life force"...hence the Pheonix cannot feed upon them.

I like it. Darth Kreshna would go frustrated in a battle involving them because he cannot satisfy his thirst over the battle.

But I guess you better check with Ra; is that true they don't have life-force? I ain't pretty familiar with Tolkien's :P

Dunno, honestly. I'm just asserting they don't. :P

Furthermore, their inhuman nature coupled with the power of the Ring makes them extremely resistant to the Ancient's song, virtually to the point where's it's entirely ineffective.

I would attribute the resistance due to the lack of life-force. Remember, all those things between the Guardians and the Phoenix is over a thing called "sentient life force". ;)

However, certain Trolls also have immunity against the Guardian's song, due to their calmness of being a silicon-based nature. I hope we still remember that the Guardians is supposed to be powerful, though. Probably we should downplay the immunity part? Remember, the Guardians are the Lovecraftian Old Ones! :P

The Orcs are nothing really special in combat, strength or intelligence. I figured they simply need to have a special use in this fight, hence my idea of not providing the Pheonix feeding sources and being virtually immune to the Ancient's song. Frusterating both this godlike powers. ;)

One drawback though is Lord Walper cannot milk them for Force power either. Although if he gets the idea in his head of acquiring the Ring...who knows what could happen?

But Lord Walper can still milk the Force from the Collective.... It'll be useful for your duel against Lord Adam. One is a Borg/Sith combo, another is a powerful Wizard.

I have an idea though; later, after the A'Millians realizes the Guardian's manipulation through Khardem (but it's still much later; now they're still having a battle against the Empire), everyone would join in the New Alliance and forming an "army of light" of such.

I could see my forces helping the "army of light" via to ensure their own survival, but they'd never by any means be considered "good guys". Not unless Walper has a serious change of heart.

Although if he does, I'd like it to be a matter of Walper turning to the light, but dying in the process fighting the Pheonix power or something. :)

However, the supernatural power of the Alliance leaders/heroes are still no match for either the Phoenix or the Guardians, so how about joining the power and chanelling it into one person (Lord Walper?) to fight Darth
Kreshna?

Interesting idea...I'd only have trouble figuring out why the other sources would be so willing to help Lord Walper as they cannot know his exact plans, but his lust for power and evil domination is hardly a secret. ;)

Imagine this:

Lord Walper is staggering as he blocks Darth Kreshna's lightsaber; it feels like resisting a Tsunami. Kreshna laughs with the insanity of the power he bears.

Far away from the duel, Galadriel and the others are covered with sweat as they are channeling their power into the Borg Lord.

"Keep concentrating," Galadriel warns the others, "Ra's team needs more time to recover the artifact!" She and Lord Adam and Lord Detritus are holding hands together in a circle, but the pressure is too strong. Far away in space, several Borg cubes start to explode as they cannot hold the strain anymore.

However, there must be a particular reason to fight. Probably in discovering more secrets? Or destroying certain artifacts? Doing something that can weaken either the Phoenix or the Guardians? Ah, but there's still a time to think about it. Meanwhile, Ra and friends are still busy discovering a horrible conspiracy at Coruscant, while an A'millian colony is being attacked by the Empire.

EDIT: or probably something like Babylon Five. Remember when Sheridan and Dellen told the First Ones (Shadows and Vorlons) to get the fuck out and stay away from the Younger Races?


A huge armada of the Ancient Guardians and the Galactic Empire are facing each other, ready for the final showdown that would bring total destruction to the universe.

"Stop this madness!" Ra speaks telepathically, "innocent lives would be perished. Our lives."

CLANG! Lord Walper blocks Darth Kreshna's attack, try to stand against the immense pressure from the madness that is the Phoenix.

Galadriel sends his telepathic persuassion to both sides as well; it is not easy to do so as they are channeling their power to the Borg Lord, "there is nothing wrong with sentience. Live is beautiful. We have nothing malevolent to be destroyed."

BZZZTTT!! Lord Walper's Lightsaber strike meets thin air as Darth Kreshna avoids with blinding speed.

"Our live is rightfully ours," Lord Detritus continues, "what are you doing is wrong. The Palpatine deceived you, tricked you two to annihilate each other for his own devilish purpose."

SCRAPE! Darth Kreshna's Lightsaber makes a burning scratch on Lord Walper's torso.

Nitpick here: Walper's Borg shielding can actually block lightsaber strikes. Would look more impressive honestly if the saber does not breach the shield, but the force of the strik hurls Robert through the air. ;) That, or the shield has failed at this point for wahtever reason (overuse, etc)

The Borg Lord sommersaults backwards, then regerate his wound as fast as possible. A Borg Cube starts to explode with the strain.

"This is all madness," Lord Adam continues, "you will not only annihilate all sentience but yourself. Both of you! You both shall loose, and Palpatine shall win!"

WHACK! Lord Walper's Lightsaber cuts Darth Kreshna's left arm. To his surprise and horror, the wound spills *fire* instead of blood, but the stranger thing is the arm does not fall to the floor; instead, it quickly re-attachs itself.

The party is strained. They must end this war now or the whole universe would be destroyed.

The universe from which its ashes, Palpatine would raise as a a god.




(alright, you can eliminate the Batman and Robin sound effects)

Interesting idea...but let's wait some time before we plan this. Haven't even finished plotting my duel with Adam here yet. :)

[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

Dunno, honestly. I'm just asserting they don't. :P

Well they're "artificial" (magical?) creation, so I would suspect they don't have life-force. But Ra need to confirm this. I ain't really familiar with Tolkien's. :(

The Orcs are nothing really special in combat, strength or intelligence. I figured they simply need to have a special use in this fight, hence my idea of not providing the Pheonix feeding sources and being virtually immune to the Ancient's song. Frusterating both this godlike powers. ;)

Yup, the Phoenix is frustrated, and driven further to insanity.

I could see my forces helping the "army of light" via to ensure their own survival, but they'd never by any means be considered "good guys". Not unless Walper has a serious change of heart.

Now this is what I'm really interested in:

I would rather have "grey" area instead of clear distinction between "good" and "evil". What is "good"? What is "evil"?

Consider Babylon Five: yes, they're generally "good" guys, but what Londo Mollari feels about the Narn? (although he eventually hands out Lord Refa to them). How about the bickering among themselves? (although they eventually unite).

The "army of light" (the New Alliance, I mean :P , but "Army of Light" sounds good!) don't have any choice but cooperating to ensure their survival, and the survival of the universe.

I imagine the Borg wouldn't turn to be "good" by a flash instant; by Lord Walper turning to the Light Side. No, that would be cheap.

I imagine Light Side and Dark Side is merely a matter of religion -strictly personal issues. Staying on the Dark Side doesn't mean Lord Walper cannot befriend another characters like Ra or Lord Detritus. And it would be a gradual process; by fighting side-by-side, by solving the puzzles together, by discovering the mystery.

G'Kar of Narn was an unfriendly, gruff, and "hardline" character during the early phase of Babylon Five, but as the story goes, it is interesting to see more of his "light" side and sense of "comradeship".

Remember a B5 episode, where Sheridan and Delenn discovering Centauri fighters were destroying friendly ships (I don't remember who the friendly ships actually are). They anticipated a war against the Centauri, but at the end Delenn hugged Londo Mollari. She told the surprised ambassador, "because you are my friend and there may not be another chance to do it." Yes, their governments are going to war, but personally they are friends. They have emotional bonds with each other which gradually grows out of their fight against the Shadows.

I don't know whether the New Alliane would eventually break up, or still have some grudge with each other, but probably they would eventually be friends due to their strive against the Ancients and the Phoenix.

I dunno', but I never like the idea of "black and white" good and evil. Is there anything "good" or "evil" except of ancient legends? The way I see it, there's only an endless conflict of contradicting interest. One's personal interest may be different than his/her government's interest, and they may be events where you are going to be officially hostile with your friend.

]Although if he does, I'd like it to be a matter of Walper turning to the light, but dying in the process fighting the Pheonix power or something. :)

Well, after the War of the Gods is over, the Empire is going to split in two; the Renegade faction under the New Alliance, and the Evil Imperial Regime under President Clark... I mean under the influence of the Organization (they are using the Guardan's tech). Are you sure you want to die while the excitement is still going? ;)

Interesting idea...I'd only have trouble figuring out why the other sources would be so willing to help Lord Walper as they cannot know his exact plans, but his lust for power and evil domination is hardly a secret. ;)

Mutual survive would ensure that thing, you know! ;)

However, it's interesting to see the secret agenda of the Borg.

Nitpick here: Walper's Borg shielding can actually block lightsaber strikes. Would look more impressive honestly if the saber does not breach the shield, but the force of the strik hurls Robert through the air. ;) That, or the shield has failed at this point for wahtever reason (overuse, etc)

Yup. There's still plenty of time to think about it.

As for Darth Kreshna, I would imagine he is getting merged with the Phoenix, making him a "fire" being. Did anyone watch Blade? Where Deacon Frost turned into some sort of "blood deity"?

Interesting idea...but let's wait some time before we plan this. Haven't even finished plotting my duel with Adam here yet. :)

He is a powerful Mage. Maybe you would need some power boost from the Collective? And don't worry about the ending part... We're still far from it. :P

[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

Anyway, about my last post. A retcon wasn't necessary. See, last Ra saw of Flotsam, he was fighting Smith. The team got back to the Drocc Hotel without him, so they had no idea what had happened to him.

They would have caught up with him at the redezvous in the Orzh'ii District.
- Ra

Well I have made the retcon anyway. Besides, Dartzap meets some interesting loony in the cell. Ra, you may want to play as the prisoner as well, mentioning something like 'Aztec Millenium' or some sort (only this time it is Dathomir Millenium instead of Aztec), or revealing something about the Project Majestic.

HINT: Agent Smith was one of the missing children. He is also immune to the song, as his Force is not natural... the Project Majestic abused Guardian Tech, but while the Organization wanted to keep it moderate, Palpatine was mad. He was experiencing with small children. Palpatine wanted to be a god. And "the aliens fear the Fire on the Sky, and now they're pissed off." ;)

[Ra]

When I go to rescue Flotsam, there will probably be a lightsabre battle, I dunno. But anyway, the rescue is gonna be quite similar to a certain rescue from The Matrix...
- Ra

[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

When I go to rescue Flotsam, there will probably be a lightsabre battle, I dunno. But anyway, the rescue is gonna be quite similar to a certain rescue from The Matrix...
- Ra

Good idea!

Probably they would find the CSM would actually (and secretly) help them. The Cigarette-Smoking Man knows more, a lot more, than the Organization. But the CSM would maybe kill Dave. He cannot afford the prisoner telling everything to the Organization.

Beware, the Nightsister Millenium would come, and only The Army of Light could stop it!

[the sleazy KAN]

by the way, the rescue should be pretty easy at start... It's a police station anyway. What would trouble Ra and friends are the Agent Smiths!

Edited your name to better reflect accuracy, Kreshna. :P

[Ra]

I've shamelessly copied the Morpheus rescue scene from the Matrix! RAR!

Sadly, I forgot the lightsabre battle, but I have a plan (I always do!). Maybe that comes when they get back to the Drocc Hotel (and Smith is waiting for them ).
- Ra

[Dartzap]

Right, where the Hell's is Flotsam now? I'm confused!

[Ra]

He was rescued. Now, Galaldriel's limo gets caught by Agent Smith, and the two are going to duel it out while ARC Troopers attack the rest of the group. That means you're gonna have the fun task of fighting off the Empire's best troops until D XIII gets off his ass and shows up for the great escape.
- Ra

[Dartzap]

Oh brilliant, I'm going to have a bunch of skirtwearing men after me, talk about insulting a warriors honour.

[Ra]

You're not alone out there, you still have Ra and Patterson to back you up.

(Would be one awful rescue mission if you was )
- Ra

[Dartzap]

Anyone have any ideas how to continue this? Until someone does something, I cannot bring in my "surprise" which will help get us off planet.

[Ra]

Hey, I'm waiting for KAN to continue the Agent Smith/Galadriel fight. I've been dying to start the aircar chase!

Anyway, just a reminder, the Ascendancy is hanging around the system so we can make our escape.
- Ra