Top Muslim clerics: Convert must die

[frigidmagi]

CNN

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) -- Senior Muslim clerics are demanding that an Afghan man on trial for converting from Islam to Christianity be executed, warning that if the government caves in to Western pressure and frees him, they will incite people to "pull him into pieces."

In an unusual move, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice telephoned President Hamid Karzai on Thursday seeking a "favorable resolution" of the case of Abdul Rahman. The 41-year-old former medical aid worker faces the death penalty under Afghanistan's Islamic laws for becoming a Christian.

His trial has fired passions in this conservative Muslim nation and highlighted a conflict of values between Afghanistan and its Western backers.

"Rejecting Islam is insulting God. We will not allow God to be humiliated. This man must die," said cleric Abdul Raoulf, who is considered a moderate and was jailed three times for opposing the Taliban before the hard-line regime was ousted in 2001.

The trial, which began last week, has caused an international outcry. U.S. President George W. Bush has said he is "deeply troubled" by the case and expects Afghanistan to "honor the universal principle of freedom." (Watch how Rahman's case troubles the West -- 1:17)

Rice spokesman Sean McCormack said she told Karzai it is important for the Afghan people to know that freedom of religion is observed in their country.

Her direct appeal to a foreign leader in a judicial proceeding in their own country was unusual. But in deference to the country's sovereignty, Rice evidently did not demand specifically that the trial be halted and the defendant released.

"This is clearly an Afghan decision," McCormack said.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel told reporters she had received assurances from Karzai in a telephone call that Rahman would not be sentenced to death.

Diplomats have said the Afghan government is searching for a way to drop the case. On Wednesday, authorities said Rahman is suspected of being mentally ill and would undergo psychological examinations to see whether he is fit to stand trial.

But three Sunni preachers and a Shiite one interviewed by The Associated Press in four of Kabul's most popular mosques said they do not believe Rahman is insane.

"He is not crazy. He went in front of the media and confessed to being a Christian," said Hamidullah, chief cleric at Haji Yacob Mosque. "The government is scared of the international community. But the people will kill him if he is freed."

Raoulf, who is a member of the country's main Islamic organization, the Afghan Ulama Council, concurred. "The government is playing games. The people will not be fooled."

"Cut off his head!" he exclaimed, sitting in a courtyard outside Herati Mosque. "We will call on the people to pull him into pieces so there's nothing left."

He said the only way for Rahman to survive would be for him to go into exile.

But Said Mirhossain Nasri, the top cleric at Hossainia Mosque, one of the largest Shiite places of worship in Kabul, said Rahman must not be allowed to leave the country.

"If he is allowed to live in the West, then others will claim to be Christian so they can, too," he said. "We must set an example. ... He must be hanged."

The clerics said they were angry with the United States and other countries for pushing for Rahman's freedom.

"We are a small country and we welcome the help the outside world is giving us. But please don't interfere in this issue," Nasri said. "We are Muslims and these are our beliefs. This is much more important to us than all the aid the world has given us."

Afghanistan's constitution is based on Sharia law, which is interpreted by many Muslims to require that any Muslim who rejects Islam be sentenced to death.

Hamidullah warned that the government would lose the support of the people if it frees Rahman, and "there will be an uprising" like the one against Soviet occupying forces in the 1980s.

Human rights group Amnesty International said if Rahman has been detained solely for his religious beliefs, he would be a "prisoner of conscience" and that the charges should be dropped.

Rahman is believed to have lived in Germany for nine years after converting to Christianity while working as a medical aid worker for an international Christian group helping Afghan refugees in Pakistan. He returned to Kabul in 2002.

It was not immediately clear when Rahman's trial would resume. Authorities have barred attempts by the AP to see him and he is not believed to have a lawyer.

"Oh please don't interfere in our beliefs, just let us maim, murder and terrorize as we see fit please." Fuck you asshole. It becomes clear as fucking day there is no understanding of what freedom of religion actually means when you hear this crap. Freedom of religion does not mean you get to execute people for converting! This is fucking insanity.

[Rogue 9]

"You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."

Oh, if only...

[Mayabird]

They say "rejecting Islam" in the article, but according to my RAT (an atheist with a nominally Muslim father) it's actually worse than that. By Islamic law anyone whose father is Muslim is Muslim unto pain of death, so there's no way to not reject Islam if your father is Muslim, even if you never believed in it or were raised in it. Thus, having Islam as the official religion and freedom of religion simultaneously is impossible. (He was actually worried about it in Iraq because of the emphasis on Islam in the future there, but that's for another topic.)

That the authorities are trying to claim that this man is mentally ill isn't encouraging at all.

[Batman]

I would be greatly surprised by there being such a thing as islamic 'law' as opposed to a double dozen different interpretations of it.
Besides, assuming the populace actually freely chose that interminably stupid set of laws to live by, who are we to argue? That's democracy.
The public gets what the public wants.
Thank Valen that Western democracies usually aren't.

[Mayabird]

I would be greatly surprised by there being such a thing as islamic 'law' as opposed to a double dozen different interpretations of it.

I don't know Arabic myself, but I think my RAT does, so I'll ask him about the exact wording of the lines next time I see him.

Anyway, update. He's free for the moment because of technicalities. No word on if he's going into hiding from the mobs and no sign of anybody in the country having a bit of sense or a concept of freedom of religion.

Afghan convert set to be freed
Abdul Rahman converted to Christianity 16 years ago

An Afghan man charged with converting to Christianity is set to be released from jail while his case is reviewed.

Abdul Rahman's case has been handed back to the attorney-general because of gaps in the evidence, an official said.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, the official said that while the attorney-general looked at the papers, Mr Rahman did not need to be detained.

Mr Rahman, a Christian for 16 years, was charged with rejecting Islam and potentially faced the death penalty.

Afghanistan's legal system is built on Islamic Sharia law, and Mr Rahman could have faced execution if he had refused to renounce Christianity.

Karzai concerned

The Afghan government has come under increasing pressure over the case, says the BBC's Sanjoy Majumder in Kabul.

Key international backers of President Hamid Karzai have called for Mr Rahman's release, while Muslim conservatives in Afghanistan are in favour of his detention.

Mr Karzai has personally intervened in the case and several top level meetings have been held over the past two days to resolve the issue.

Details of his imminent release are being kept secret, as feelings in Kabul have run high over the case.

'Mental issues'

Earlier, Mr Rahman's family asked the court to dismiss the case against him, saying he suffered from mental illness.

Supreme Court Judge Ansarullah Mawlavizada told the BBC there was considerable doubt that Mr Rahman was fit to stand trial.

According to Judge Mawlavizada, Mr Rahman appeared "disturbed".

He said the accused man's relatives had told the authorities he was insane and that they claimed Mr Rahman had said he heard strange voices in his head.

The judge also said it was not clear if the accused was really an Afghan or a citizen of another country.

Mr Rahman has lived outside Afghanistan for 16 years and is believed to have converted to Christianity during a stay in Germany.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4847342.stm