'Americans enemy... is Satan'

[SirNitram]

I dunno, I think Satan's hanging in Redmond these days. You have seen Balmer?

[quote]Oct. 27 issue - President Bush’s commission on public diplomacy recently noted that in nine Muslim and Arab nations only 12 percent of respondents surveyed believed that “Americans respect Arab/Islamic values.â€

[frigidmagi]

This is surely the first time a conservative evangelical has argued that Clinton’s election was caused by divine intervention.

False.

[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

describing his battle with a Somali (Muslim) warlord, he has said: “I knew that my God was bigger than his God. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.” He has also repeatedly explained that America’s enemy was “a spiritual enemy ... called Satan.” The enemy will only be defeated, he added, “if we come against them in the name of Jesus.”

Heh. His view reminds me of a particular movie titled Megiddo: Omega Code 2 --an example of "America vs Satan" plot cliche.

[Ra]

BWAHAHAHA, Satan livessssssssss! 666omglolz!



Seriously, I expect ol' Lucifer has better things to do with his time than aiding terrorists.

[Mayabird]

This is surely the first time a conservative evangelical has argued that Clinton’s election was caused by divine intervention.

False.

But which deity or anti-deity did they claim did it?
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[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

This is surely the first time a conservative evangelical has argued that Clinton’s election was caused by divine intervention.

False.

But which deity or anti-deity did they claim did it?

Well, the assertion that the paragraph above is false could actually mean many things:

.....it could mean that this is not the first time a convervative evangelical has argued that Clinton's erection was caused by divine intervention......

.....it could mean that a convervative evangelical has argued that Clinton’s election was caused by something else (anti-deity, etc) instead of divine intervention......

.....it could mean that a conservative evangelical has actually argued that Clinton’s erection was caused by divine intervention......

(sorry, can't help it! )

[Rogue 9]

Dude, you said his erection was caused by divine intervention twice.

[Masterharper]

Dude, you said his erection was caused by divine intervention twice. :razz:

Well there was more than one scandal.

[frigidmagi]

First off KAN you keep that crap in testing.

Second fundalmentist belief is that every President comes to power via the divine will of God. However some Presidents fail in what they're suppose to do losing divine mandate. One should remember they believe in a diety that is directly involved in the daily actities of the universes.

[Mayabird]

Second fundalmentist belief is that every President comes to power via the divine will of God. However some Presidents fail in what they're suppose to do losing divine mandate. One should remember they believe in a diety that is directly involved in the daily actities of the universes.

Where exactly would elections fit into this in their minds? Do they not even matter and god just miracles the president in, or do they think that god directly controls everyone into voting for or against someone?

It probably won't make any more sense to hear what they do think, but at least I'll know it so I have a better idea of what they think, as nonsensical as it will no doubt be.

[frigidmagi]

Okay, the average fundalmentist belief is that God works directly in forming and steering history. There are various schools of thought involved. There is the indirect influence where as God 'taps' events in order to increase probilities towards his desired result until the probilitiy approaches 100%. Since he is all powerful and all knowing God does not make mistakes in working those angles.

An example of this is that God ensured Nixon would be caught and disgraced over Watergate, and thus ensured Ford became president.

The direct school believes that God moves within the mind of the people and causes them to vote directly for who he wants, etc, etc.

As most of you can guess I don't believe in either one. The God I pray to is more... alien in nature then the Fundalmentist version of the Lord God, who tend to see him as an all powerful being with a totally human nature. I consider this to be very unlikely in the very least. I also believe in Free Will so I also believe that God very rarely involves himself in human history, instead allowing us to write our own damn story.

Any questions?

[Norseman]

First off KAN you keep that crap in testing.

Second fundalmentist belief is that every President comes to power via the divine will of God. However some Presidents fail in what they're suppose to do losing divine mandate. One should remember they believe in a diety that is directly involved in the daily actities of the universes.

Whoah! That's bizarre, it's like a Fundamentalist Christian belief in the Mandate of Heaven!