Sarkozy & Seriously challenging stereotypes

Norseman · Post by **Norseman** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:08 am

We've all seen the riots in the banlieus when Sarkozy got elected, and we've all heard how the immigrants hate his guts. That's why this post came like such a huge surprise.

Apparently a lot of stereotypes about France, the French elections, and the banlieus need modification. Mind you this could be a lot like the situation in Norway where some immigrants vote for the Progress Party because they're the only ones with an actual integration policy.

I thought it was at any rate interesting.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:27 pm

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:34 pm

It jibes with what I've heard about the man previously, that he isn't anti-immigrant (being the son of immigrants himself) just pro law and order . Given the fucked up nature of race relations in France (where racism is illegal, but everywhere anyway) it makes sense.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:30 pm

You know, after the third generation, they're not 'immigrants' anymore. Except in France.

Norseman · Post by **Norseman** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:01 am

SirNitram wrote:You know, after the third generation, they're not 'immigrants' anymore. Except in France.

Try "Europe."

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:57 pm

Norseman wrote:
SirNitram wrote:You know, after the third generation, they're not 'immigrants' anymore. Except in France.
Try "Europe."

Is the rest of the Continent similarly backwards, denying citizenship to those not of The Blood? I hadn't heard any of that.

Comrade Tortoise · Post by **Comrade Tortoise** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:11 am

SirNitram wrote:
Norseman wrote:
SirNitram wrote:You know, after the third generation, they're not 'immigrants' anymore. Except in France.
Try "Europe."
Is the rest of the Continent similarly backwards, denying citizenship to those not of The Blood? I hadn't heard any of that.

Germany is. Though, they have procedures for getting citizenship that arent tooo bad.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:35 pm

Is the rest of the Continent similarly backwards, denying citizenship to those not of The Blood? I hadn't heard any of that.

Do you mean legally or socially?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:37 pm

frigidmagi wrote:
Is the rest of the Continent similarly backwards, denying citizenship to those not of The Blood? I hadn't heard any of that.
Do you mean legally or socially?

In France, 'immigrants' include the descendents of those who were encouraged to immigrate to France post WW2 to work in the factories. They're the ones who were rioting all over Paris. They are not citizens despite being second or third generation there.

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