Obama "Your a dodgy bitch, Hill"

[Dark Silver]

Well...he would have said it in a perfect world.....

Obama says Clinton dodges hard questions

By AMY LORENTZEN, Associated Press Writer Wed Oct 31, 9:36 PM ET

DES MOINES, Iowa - Democrat Barack Obama said Wednesday that rival Hillary Rodham Clinton's less-than-straightforward answers in a Democratic debate raise questions about her ability to assume the presidency.
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"This may be smart politics by Washington's standards, but it's not what America needs right now," the first-term Illinois senator told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from Chicago. "Turning the page means offering the American people a clear sense of your principles and where you'd lead."

Obama complained that during Tuesday night's debate Clinton didn't provide clear answers on a number of occasions.

"After the most secretive administration in memory, an administration that consistently misled the American people, we need a president who is going to be open and forthright," Obama said. "I think last night's debate really exposed this fault line. Senator Clinton left us wondering where she stood on every single hard question from Iran to Social Security to drivers' licenses for undocumented workers."

Obama said he was especially concerned by Clinton's response when asked if she would release her papers from her years as first lady.

"Her big answer on whether she would release the papers from her White House years was particularly troubling because she is running on her record as first lady as much as on her record as a senator," he said. "How can people fully judge that record if the documents from those years remain locked away?"

Tuesday's debate was the first in a month, and during that time Clinton has gained in the polls and firmly established herself as the front-runner. The debate also came soon after Obama said he would step up his criticism of the New York senator to make clear their differences.

Clinton's campaign responded that Obama has abandoned his pledge to run a positive campaign, or as he described it, the politics of hope.

"With each attack, Senator Obama undermines the central premise of his candidacy. The politics of hope that once characterized his remarks has now been replaced by the kinds of jabs one typically sees from candidates desperate to gain traction in the polls," said Mark Daley, a Clinton spokesman.

The Clinton campaign also posted a Web video arguing that her rivals had been piling on.

"The politics of hope does not mean hoping that your opponents aren't going to point out the differences between you and them," Obama said.

He pledged to continue to draw clear differences between himself and Clinton.

"And frankly, Senator Clinton did it for us yesterday with some of her answers," he said.

Obama said he has based his career on transparency with voters. While in the Illinois Legislature, he said he pushed for ethics reform. In Washington, he said he has released his congressional earmark requests and worked to ensure that lobbyists disclose bundling practices used in fundraising.

He boasted that he has "put forward probably the toughest set of ethics rules for how an Obama administration would operate compared to any other candidate."

[Charon]

"You're playing mean! You said you wouldn't play mean!"

"I'm not playing mean, I'm simply pointing out something that I seriously think is an issue."

"But that's being mean!"

"Sometimes the truth is mean, deal with it."

[frigidmagi]

"You're playing mean! You said you wouldn't play mean!"

"I'm not playing mean, I'm simply pointing out something that I seriously think is an issue."

"But that's being mean!"

"Sometimes the truth is mean, deal with it."

quoted for truth.

Personally I'm glad Obama is starting to ramp up the attack and he's right, Hillary is dodging some damn important questions and trying to play it coy. Well it might be cute in a 19 year old girl(barely) but it's damn annoying in a presidential candidate and given recent events it's simply unacceptable.

Also anyone who thinks Hillary will be a uniting figure is smoking some powerful shit and should stop hogging.

[The Silence and I]

I like this guy more and more. I saw him speak at ASU (well, I couldn't see him) and he actually impressed me with his apparent honesty. I didn't feel like he was some sleeze ball like I so often do when watching politicians and this is a fascinating thing.

I do hope the nation can be made to see Hilary for what she is: a obfuscating power-monger with questionable experience, and the best interests of none of us at heart. If Obama can achieve this while maintaining his campaign's clean appearance I'll be a happy person.

[Cynical Cat]

I do hope the nation can be made to see Hilary for what she is: a obfuscating power-monger with questionable experience, and the best interests of none of us at heart. If Obama can achieve this while maintaining his campaign's clean appearance I'll be a happy person.

The nation does see Hilary as an opportunist, or at least a signifigant chunk of it does. The problem is that at this moment they're both running for the Democratic nomination and in that party the Clinton name wields a lot of power and influence. Hilary is the front runner and unless Obama pulls ahead of her the nation will get the awesome choice of a Democratic political opportunist versus a Republican political opportunist.

[Charon]

The thing that annoys me most about Hillary is that, above being a political opportunist, I mean, there are very very few that aren't. She's so fucking blatant about it. She doesn't even try to disguise the fact that she's a senator in New York just because it's a large democratic state and the laws for living in the state were easy on her. She doesn't try to hide the fact that she blatantly bandwagons what's "popular", like with the whole debacle of video games being morally repugnant. She's the only candidate that went "Oh, you guys are pushing to go before the starting date for primaries? Ok I'll join you on that." despite EVERY OTHER CANDIDATE recognizing that the state had, quite simply, fucked up.

Gah.

Furthermore, what experience does she really have? She was First Lady, whoopdie-doo, was she the modern Eleanor Roosevelt?

[Destructionator XV]

She doesn't try to hide the fact that she blatantly bandwagons what's "popular", like with the whole debacle of video games being morally repugnant.

I'm sorry, but I see this used rather often, and I do not see what is wrong with that. I thought the whole point of being a representative is to represent what your constituents want.

She has her faults, but I don't see that as being one of them.

[Norseman]

She doesn't try to hide the fact that she blatantly bandwagons what's "popular", like with the whole debacle of video games being morally repugnant.

I'm sorry, but I see this used rather often, and I do not see what is wrong with that. I thought the whole point of being a representative is to represent what your constituents want.

She has her faults, but I don't see that as being one of them.

Actually it's wrong for this reason: When you are elected people don't hire you to carry out their every whim, they hire your judgement as well. If you cater to every whim of the people then you're failing your duty to them. If they really dislike what you're doing they have the remedy of not electing you next time around.