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#1 New Hampshire: The Morning After.

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Post mortem time.

Hillary won by about 8,000 voters when nearly 300,000 voted for the Dems. She and Obama both get 9 delegates to the Convention. There's alot of bruhahaha of 'How could this have happened?' and I'll share my thoughts.

1) NH was the first firewall. When the Clinton campaign realized this was not an easy fight, the early plan was simple: First breakpoint is New Hampshire, so that whatever comes out of Iowa doesn't kill her. Use the lag between New Hampshire and the next state with Delegates(South Carolina) to fundraise for Super Tuesday.

2) McCain. He took in alot of Independents, which were leaning to Obama.

3) Backlash. After months and months of 'Hillary's cold and unfeeling, that's horrible!', she shows the vaguest signs of emotion and the press promptly about faces. 'Hillary's tearing up, that's horrible!'. The absurd double standard seems to have pissed alot of people off. When Hillary's policies are in view, people turn off of her. When Hillary the person gets attacked, they get angry. Shock.

So how does this shape up?

Obama netted 16 delegates from Iowa, and 9 from New Hampshire. Somehow, 2 of the Iowa ones are 'Super' delegates, and 3 from New Hampshire are also super. They're super. Thanks for asking.

Clinton got 15 delegates from Iowa, and 9 from New Hampshire. 2 Super from Iowa, 2 Super from New Hampshire.

Edwards got 14 delegates from Iowa, and 5 from New Hampshire. He got 3 Super delegates in Iowa.

What the crap does that mean? It means there's 'other' delegates, the ones who aren't held accountable to the primaries and caucuses. Pretty damn silly system, almost as bad as the caucuses. Clinton, as part of the establishment, has a good chunk of them pledged to her.. So far. The Superdels aren't decided until the convention.

Next comes Nevada, where the Culinary Union is expected to back Obama.
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So...why are they called super delegates? Do their counts vote more than the normal delegates?

Honestly...I was hoping for a closer race, or even a Obama victory in NH....but with CNN and the other talking heads got onto Hillary's tearing up and harping on it like they were trying to rip out her throat....yeah...

NV and SC are the next two, if I'm not mistaken, though they seem to also be pushing for MN (I Thought they didn't get delegates this year since they pissed off the Democratic National Convention?). I know Feaux News was harping on MN for both parties this morning.....
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Dark Silver wrote:So...why are they called super delegates? Do their counts vote more than the normal delegates?
Their creation was during the 70s, so I'm guessing pharmecuticals were involved.
Honestly...I was hoping for a closer race, or even a Obama victory in NH....but with CNN and the other talking heads got onto Hillary's tearing up and harping on it like they were trying to rip out her throat....yeah...

NV and SC are the next two, if I'm not mistaken, though they seem to also be pushing for MN (I Thought they didn't get delegates this year since they pissed off the Democratic National Convention?). I know Feaux News was harping on MN for both parties this morning.....
Michingan has no delegates to the Dems, because they revealed themselves to be too inbred to follow simple rules(Submit a simple request to the folks who run the Convention and abide by their ruling.. Not very hard, motherfuckers..). Clinton will take it, but no one will care. Clinton has all but stated she's not bothering with SC. Her campaign was considering skipping Nevada, but NH may give them sufficient cash to try.

As for 'closer'? 4% not counted yet and it's a 2% difference. That's down to the wire.
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